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5Strats
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Mar 7th, 2016 07:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You couldn't even buy a vibe pedal for many years, until Dunlop came out with the Rotovibe in the later 80's.

I recall using a phase shifter for Hendrix and Trower stuff back in the 70's and it just wasn't up to snuff.

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Mar 7th, 2016 07:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

To me, a two-track stereo recording cannot capture all the nuances of a Leslie's tone.

The Univibe (and Rotovibe, Ventilator, etc.) on record does a passable approximation of the Leslie. In a live situation however, nothing comes close to The Real Thing.

pombrio

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Mar 7th, 2016 07:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bummed to hear about the tone issue with the TC Viscous Vibe. I was thinking of ordering one since there are none to try locally but now I'll wait.

RMosack

USA

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Mar 11th, 2016 09:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Viscous Vibe sounds interesting.

I absolutely love Gilmour's vibe tones on the Dark Side of the Moon album and on Shine On You Crazy Diamond.

I have a Rotovibe and dig its tones, but it's so darn big for the pedalboard. Thus, I began a quest for an affordable and pedalboard friendly Uni-Vibe.

I used a coupon on an Electro-Harmonix Good Vibrations. Meh. Too thumpy. Sent it back.

I got a good deal on a Digitech Ventura Vibe. I still have it. It's versatile. But it never gets enough swirly depth.

I got an Earthquaker Devices The Depths. It's a cool pedal - plus I'm biased towards a NE Ohio company - but it's not a vintage sounding vibe.

I know there are some killer choices out there that cost a bundle (Dry Bell out of Croatia and a tube model whose nane escapes me out of the UK), but I've been reluctant to pull the trigger.

Maybe the TC Electronic model is viable. I hadn't yet checked out any digital models. Hmmm...

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Mar 12th, 2016 06:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the TC Electronic Viscous vibe on my pedal board and think its a great sounding unit.

The other vibes I own are an original Rotovibe, Lovepedal Picklevibe and Danelectro Cool Cat Vibe.

The Danelectro is a really good vibe pedal.

pombrio

USA

Mar 12th, 2016 07:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

5Strats, have you noticed any tone suck when your Viscous Vibe is off? I've found a used one that I've been thinking about.

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Mar 12th, 2016 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No. The pedal is true bypass so there shouldn't be any issue.

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Mar 12th, 2016 02:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Warren Haynes uses a rotosphere live and it sounds good,

but they are ridiculously expensive on the 2nd hand markets

I've got a fulltone deja vibe and I can get a decent trower Hendrix vibe.

but back on topic Stevie was mainly on the bar on those songs plus a little reverb. he did use what sounds to me like the tremolo circuits on things that I used to do and cold shot etc

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Mar 12th, 2016 03:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Warren Haynes uses a rotosphere live and it sounds good, but they are ridiculously expensive on the 2nd hand markets"

Agree! It's a great sounding unit, but I prefer the DejaVibe. I have the pedal version, where the speed of the vibe can easily be adjusted while playing. A great pedal, also pricey, but they are worth the $$$ IMO.

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Mar 12th, 2016 08:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Another nice sounding vibe is the Carl Martin Purple Moon. I bought it on a whim when a guitar store salesman told me about a vibe I might like. For some stoopid reason I thought Vibrato and purchased it because I don't have a dedicated pedal of that kind.

Duh, it's a Univibe pedal. It has a nice swirly bass emphasised lop-sidedness and, IMO, has more definition and clarity compared to my MJM '60s vibe. Anyway, I use both the '60s and Purple Moon 'cause they compliment each other.

Oh… and It also does the Hendrix/Trower thing too because the nicely integrated fuzz.

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Mar 13th, 2016 05:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

When I said "crude" it wasn't a put down, but a description of the circuit design. By today's effect pedal standards it is very crude. Many popular, valid designs are...like the Fuzz Face, wah pedals, etc. The input impedance is too low, and it degrades the tone of the guitar when bypassed. I described the circuit, and my criticism was in comparison to a Leslie. I happen to love phase shifters and have modded a couple to sound and act like a Univibe, but returned them to their stock responses.

I remember when the Univibe came out...$69.95 in the Layfayette Radio Electronics (Radio Shack competitor) catalog in the mid 60's.

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Mar 13th, 2016 06:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for clarifying.

Esteban Sugarhill

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Apr 9th, 2017 11:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know this is an old thread, but reading through it, I was surprised that nobody pointed out that criticizing a Univibe for not sounding like a Leslie is ironic.

True, it was originally supposed to be a Leslie-simulator, and it doesn't sound like a Leslie. But, a Leslie was originally supposed to simulate a pipe organ's movement as different notes/harmonics were played. A Leslie sounds even less like that than a UV does a Leslie. Even the Hammonds they were typically attached to were supposed to be a smaller, electric simulation of a pipe organ, and also don't sound anything like one.

Fuzz was originally advertised as sounding like horns or strings. Spring reverb simulated natural reverb. And the list goes on. A lot of classic sounds were achieved by trying to sound like something else.

Nobody thinks a Univibe sounds like a Leslie any more than we think a Hammond/Leslie sounds like a pipe organ.

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Apr 9th, 2017 01:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

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(This message was last edited by DrKev at 04:53 PM, Apr 9th, 2017)

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Apr 9th, 2017 03:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Esteban Sugarhill - You're right, but that's what cool about the Uni-Vibe.

The Fender Bassman was supposed to be a "bass" amp, thus this sort of creating something for one particular function, but becoming used and known for something else is fairly common when in comes to gear.

Esteban Sugarhill

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Apr 9th, 2017 05:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

But? No "but." That was my point, which should have been clear from the other examples I gave, including, ironically, the Leslie, itself.

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Apr 9th, 2017 05:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They're all useful effects.

But they're not all portable.


When's the last time you saw a guitarist onstage with an actual plate reverb?

Probably never :o)

One of Chucks Children

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Jul 7th, 2017 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What's funny is that the designers of the Univibe were trying to create a portable/practical Leslie (but failed in a good way) and now pedal designers are trying to make a more portable/practical Univibe by modifying smaller Phase 90 style phasers to give the sound more throb.

For my money a mundane bucket brigade chorus sound more like a Leslie than any Vibe or phaser. Of course, you can't play machine gun or star spangled banner without a Vibe pedal, but I cover cold shot with a chorus even though I have a Vibe.

gdw3

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Jul 7th, 2017 11:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also stepping into this old thread to thank Steve D. where, in his first response, he explains where the term "flanger" came from. I wondered!

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Jul 7th, 2017 01:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a Line 6 Roto-Machine pedal that does a pretty convincing Leslie.

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