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TheProfessor
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Feb 25th, 2016 06:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's not a problem at least with the American series (what the American Standard Series was called from 2001-2008).

roadhog96

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Feb 25th, 2016 06:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

but it's a problem with this 2012 model though. Is this why Fender added the two extra screws in the front of the bridge plate? Callahan says theirs will eliminate the problem and doesn't require the additional screws. If this is the only problem with the American Standard I can deal with it but if there are more problems I think I would rather move on a go with a higher end model.

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Feb 25th, 2016 06:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You have to remember that Callaham sells bridges for Telecasters when they claim the Fender design is less than perfect.

If you have a bridge pickups that howls, there are things you can do that cost a whole lot less than the $100+ Callaham charges for their hardware.

For instance, notice how the Callaham has a small hole at each front corner of the bridge plate. This allows you to screw the plate all the way down because the Fender design can sometimes 'float' in the front, and that can make the pickup feed back in high-volume situations. Not all Teles have this problem.

But three minutes with a 1/8" drill bit in a hand drill and two small $.04 screws later, your Fender bridge is locked down and the feedback issue is gone.

roadhog96

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Feb 25th, 2016 07:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I must have misunderstood something here. The problem with feedback comes from the bridge plate lifting off the body in the front by the bridge pickup. So this problem happened to the American Series? Or American Standard? I'm not sure which is which but the guitar I'm looking at is called a American Standard ash made in 2012 and it has two screws in the corners by the bridge pickup. So doesn't this mean that this guitar shouldn't have those feedback issues.

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Feb 25th, 2016 07:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Correct.

Also be aware the feedback issue occurs in really high-volume playing situations. Stage volumes these days are pretty low unless you're Pete Townshend :o)

(This message was last edited by Peegoo at 09:42 PM, Feb 25th, 2016)

roadhog96

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Feb 25th, 2016 08:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Great, thank you for that, Are there any other issues with the American Standard I should know about or is it pretty rock solid?

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Feb 25th, 2016 09:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Callaham makes great parts. I have a variety of his parts on both my American Tele and Strats. That said, he's also really good at making hype. If you are looking to improve an instrument or to build one from scratch, Callaham parts are worth considering. However, the improvements are "tweaks" not radical transformations.

Some parts that he makes pie-in-the-sky claims about don't really materialize in terms of results (my own tests). As much as I like (some of) the parts he offers, I take much of what he says with a grain of salt.

My 2 cents...YMMV...

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Feb 26th, 2016 07:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I just read on the Callahan site that these American Standards are known for their feedback problems stemming from the bridge plate design."

Was that ever really a thing?
This is the first time I have EVER heard that claim - from anyone, anywhere. While I do understand the physics involved and I could see where there is the theoretical potential for it occurring, the volume levels for that to happen would have to be beyond ridiculous.

Guess I learned something today.....sort of.

roadhog96

USA / CT.

Feb 26th, 2016 07:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Guess I learned something today.....sort of.

Your not the only one, don't believe everything you read.

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Feb 26th, 2016 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've played a lot of Teles on stage and have never experienced the feedback issue mentioned here. Modern, vintage, reissues, AM, MIM, MIJ all of them. I typically play with a boost pedal or drive on all the time for just a little edge.

Plug it in and crank it up! Test it for your self and see what happens. I've had far more feedback issues from humbucking PU and P90s than ever with a Telecaster.

ED P

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Feb 26th, 2016 11:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

From Peegoo- "For instance, notice how the Callaham has a small hole at each front corner of the bridge plate. This allows you to screw the plate all the way down because the Fender design can sometimes 'float' in the front, and that can make the pickup feed back in high-volume situations. Not all Teles have this problem."

I'm looking at pictures of 2012 Fender American Standard Telecasters and see 4 bridge screws- one in each corner, which would secure a bridge at each corner. Am I missing something?


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Feb 26th, 2016 01:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nope. Some Fender bridges have the two screws. Not all do.

roadhog96

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Feb 26th, 2016 05:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

NGD, Yup I bought it today and it's in perfect mint condition. The seller said he really doesn't play the Tele all that much and he's selling it to buy a new acoustic. Not only does the guitar look unused the case is the upgraded Fender case. Oh, and no feedback with this Tele pickups either.

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Feb 26th, 2016 06:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Outstanding!

Chris Greene
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Feb 26th, 2016 07:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Congrats, roadhog. But remember, pictures or it didn't happen. ;o)

roadhog96

USA / CT.

Feb 26th, 2016 07:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

These were sent to me by the seller. Some of the dates on the pictures are mixed up. I haven't taken any of my own but I don't see how they would look any different, this is the guitar as It looks right now. I couldn't find a mark on it.

Enjoy the 6 picture slideshow

Chris Greene
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Feb 26th, 2016 07:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That's a nice piece of ash.

Mick Reid
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Feb 27th, 2016 12:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good score.
Nice timber & finish too.

My one tele is traditional 50's shape and feels fine, but I'd like to try a contoured body just to see if it feels that much different.

Enjoy!

roadhog96

USA / CT.

Feb 27th, 2016 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yah the finish and grain really got my attention to. The one thing that was good about this deal is I was able to talk to the seller in person and see the guitar before buying it. The seller was totally honest and spot on with his discription about the guitar, it truly does look new. Absolutely no fret wear, straight neck, no repairs or flaws. I'm really stoked about this guitar especially for being my first Fender. Why did I wait so long?

JohnS

USA

Feb 27th, 2016 06:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice! Good purchase. The thicker flat bridge on modern Teles pretty much eliminates flatness problems.

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