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Hammond101
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Feb 23rd, 2016 03:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Now I've done it. I sold my 612ce in 2010 and really miss it. Times were tough, better now. I wanted the same exact model but I'm too inpatient to wait to find one. I did find one but it had not been well cared for. So.....

On my was to the grocery store Saturday I stopped into the local GC. In the acoustic room I found a dead mint 2015 612ce. It was a trade in that just arrived, with case but no candy. $2099. The guitar new streets for $3199 so this seemed like a good deal. If the guitar was wiped down with a polishing cloth you could not tell it from new.

I played it naked then plugged it in to a Marshall acoustic amp of all things. This thing is nice. Not better than my 814ce but just different enough but still warm and woody specially when plugged in. The ES2 electronics seem better than the ES in my 814. I asked them to find the case, gave it a once over then did the deal. It gets released from 30 day hold middle of March.

the 612ce

(This message was last edited by Hammond101 at 05:09 PM, Feb 23rd, 2016)

Hammond101
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Feb 23rd, 2016 03:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

....and from the

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Strat, Tele, Strat, Tele...hmmmmm
Feb 23rd, 2016 03:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Congrats. Hope it works out!

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Feb 23rd, 2016 03:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I want to see the pics of you playing it naked. Ummm... maybe not.

Congrats!

Black Gibson
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Acoustics Rock! Well, sort of...
Feb 23rd, 2016 03:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice! all my favorite guitars are made of maple.

Hammond101
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Feb 23rd, 2016 05:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I want to see the pics of you playing it naked. Ummm... maybe not."

I'd need a long strap.

Naked = unplugged.


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Feb 25th, 2016 10:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice!

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Feb 27th, 2016 06:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My everyday guitar is an all mahogany 512e-12 fret. I really like this guitar.

But yesterday I stopped at the local Taylor store and played a 612e-12 fret. I loved the tone and it was possibly the prettiest guitar I have seen in a long, long time. Tempting, very tempting.

I think you are going to be really happy with your new guitar.

Hammond101
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Feb 29th, 2016 09:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I really like the 12 fret models however they don't fit my playing style. I like the cutaways as I do play some lead up the neck. It would be a true luxury for me to own one. Maybe someday.

I almost popped for a GC8 a few years back but could not get the deal right with the dealer. Something about that slotted headstock just sounds wonderful.

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Feb 29th, 2016 07:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Years ago I bought a Taylor 314 limited. Model with maple back and sides. I was used to the rumble of a Martin dreadnought so it was a different voice to me. I just liked the shimmer in the store and after I got to play with other folks at jams and such I learned that as nice as it sounded by itself when playing with others it was the guitar that always brought the sparkle.
It just pops out for lead work and still has a nice balanced tone. Enjoy that maple! It's nice to hear the upper three strings project as well as the bottom ones and show off the fingerpicking!

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Mar 15th, 2016 12:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Played your guitar naked? Were you channeling Richard Dreyfus in "The Goodbye Girl"?

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Mar 15th, 2016 12:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very nice, congrats!

Hammond101
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Mar 18th, 2016 05:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It has come home to me. The trade-in hold has been lifted and the 2015 612ce is now a member of my harem.

I have to say however I'm not totally impressed with the Expression System 2. Not really impressed at all. The pickup mounted in the bridge that press against the saddle turn the saddle, bridge and bridge pins in to microphones. Playing finger style or flat picking you don't notice. Palm mute the guitar or want a high end tone by moving back toward the bridge and every little move of you palm is amplified. Sucks actually.

So.....the multi-piece pickup appears to be adjustable. It is hugely sensitive and too much so IMO. Basically you loosen a .050" set screw and you can move the PUs up for more sensitivity or down for less. I moved them down about .025 below the top of the bridge. It really helped the microphonics and seemed to balance the guitar as well. Prior to the adjustment the bridge PU was over-powering the body sensor.

It ain't perfect but it's much better than it was. I have the earlier expression system in my 814ce and it is perfect. I'm considering abandoning the three piece bridge sensor and putting an under saddle in it like earlier models.

When I played it in the store I only strummed and finger picked it. I had no idea until I brought it home and starting surfing a bit with it.

The guitar sounds very much like the 2005 I had earlier until you plug it in. I'm a little disappointed but need to play with amp settings a bit more.

Note to anyone who owns a Taylor with ES2, you MUST loosen the PU retaining set screws FIRST if you are going to remove the saddle. PU damage will result if you just grab it and pull upward. (No I did not do damage!....I was lucky and figured out how it worked first.)

In any case I'd trade this 2015 for a super clean 2005 with a three piece back in a heartbeat.

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Apr 7th, 2016 12:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got a 1994 814c, myself. Bought it new back then but I've always loved the Maple 60" series guitars. Congrats. It's a beautiful instrument you've got there.

Hammond101
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Apr 13th, 2016 11:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have not bonded with the latest version of the 612ce. It is great in every way until you plug it in. I do not like the Taylor ES2. It sounds plastic compared to the original ES in my '07 814ce. Even with adjustments to the pickup the bridge and pins are still microphonic, yuk. With this, I cannot live. It's going back to GC tonight before my option for return expires.

I found a 2011 GC6e in vintage burst with a three piece back that I brought home Sunday that blows the 612ce away plugged in or not. It has the 2010 ES version and is quite nice. Pics of this in a future thread.

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May 7th, 2016 07:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

FYI...Those "pickups don't adjust up an down, they press up against the saddle edge, applying pressure against the three sensors.
If you push them down they will fall out.

I just picked up the 612ce 12 fret and have the same issue with the saddle being very microphonic. The guitar itself is fantastic.
Not sure what I will do yet.

Craig

(This message was last edited by Barlowfaudio at 12:47 PM, May 8th, 2016)

Hammond101
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May 9th, 2016 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Talking with Taylor, it is possible to lower the pickups just slightly. I moved them down about .025". This did help a bit but did not resolve the issue. That whole bridge area it still too "hot" to touch IMO.

Taylor did at my request offer to put ES1 parts in it for about $250-300. I decided to return the guitar and replace it with a CG6 from 2011 with ES1 and a 314ce from 2007 also with ES1. Both are meeting my needs as does my 2007 814ce.

I really liked the 612ce otherwise. It was a perfect fit for what I wanted to do with it acoustically. Plug it in however and yikes, what a mess, microphonically and tone wise.

Best of luck Craig, this is a tough one. I'm glad I'm not the only one who views it this way.

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