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5Strats
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Jan 30th, 2016 03:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Do you have to mute in front of the slide or can you just to the traditional muting with your right hand?

I just got back to playing slide recently and it seems to work well either way and is far more natural for me using my picking hand.

(This message was last edited by 5Strats at 05:32 PM, Jan 30th, 2016)

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Jan 30th, 2016 05:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Use whatever works for you.

But to play cleanly, you need to drag a finger on all the strings behind the slide to mute them and keep them from ringing.

Unless you're going for that raw, raspy "Lonesome George" (Thorogood) tone, of course.

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Jan 30th, 2016 05:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I wrote a song in open E using some Keef-like chords (I know he uses open G) and slide. I'd like to get a Mick Taylor slide sound, but I doubt my technique is up to snuff yet.

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Feb 1st, 2016 10:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm not much of a finger-style player, but I was taught to play slide with just finger picking. Really allows you to mute strings without having to think too much about it.

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Feb 1st, 2016 11:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There is great advantage in using fingers (right hand) when playing slide, but it's not a necessity.

I put the slide on my pinky so I can drag index and middle behind it, and steady the slide w/my ring finger.

Now for Tush I often move the slide to my middle finger so I can do the Chuck Berry shuffle chords. That's tougher to retain clarity, but those solos aren't pristine anyway.

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Feb 3rd, 2016 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been playing a lot more slide, lately.
I play mostly in standard tuning, so I wear the slide on my pinky and mute behind it with my middle and index fingers, much like Tyrone described.

As far as picking, I usually go with a hybrid approach using both fingers and pick, depending on how sharp I want the attack.

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Feb 3rd, 2016 03:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Something else to consider is to just use enough of the slide to cover the strings that your playing. So if for instance your only using notes on the first and second strings don't have your slide going all the way up to cover 4th 5th and 6th strings. If your using those strings to play chords though as well as single note riffs in between you can get away with muting with the heel of your hand sometimes. I like shorter slides, about 2" seem right to me I think a lot of slides out there are way to long.

(This message was last edited by scott-s at 05:27 PM, Feb 3rd, 2016)

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Feb 4th, 2016 12:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Re: the OP, I use both front of slide and picking palm and also go back & forth between finger tips & plectrum or both.

But... how many of you are pinky vs ring finger sliders?

I've tried a hundred times to switch to the pinky, but I just can't get it.
I know there are advantages to the pinky for chording with the free fingers, but dang, it just doesn't feel right.

And FWIW, Derek Trucks seems to do OK with the ring finger ;^)

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Feb 4th, 2016 07:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm using my pinky to allow for chording. I've used my ring finger in the past, however.

Changing quickly between rhythm and slide licks in this particular song doesn't give me time to change to finger picking too, at least no while singing lead.

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Feb 4th, 2016 03:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use the ring finger also because it feels more natural to me and lines up over the frets perpendicular almost automatically without having to twist my wrist at a weird angle. Also a typical slide feels really loose on me pinky and I like a snug fit. I've had to teach myself to use my pinky more now when fretting while I'm wearing a slide on the ring finger. It all just kind of worked out that way as I played more and more slide. But everyone has their own approach about what works best for them.

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Feb 8th, 2016 07:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Something else to consider is to just use enough of the slide to cover the strings that your playing."

Good point.
My favorite slide is the "Salidan Middy", which is a bit shorter than a full-size slide. I've also found that I really like the ceramic slide for both tone and feel. But that's very much a personal preference thing.

The Salidan's are pretty beefy, but most slides are too small for me - won't fit over my large, lumpy knuckles. (;^)
Rocky Mountain has other models with smaller diameters.

Salidan Middy from Rocky Mountain Slides

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Feb 8th, 2016 11:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I made a slide break-through a couple years back. Standard tuning. There was a guy on You-Tube that really made it clear for me what I had to work on. I put the time in and now it's something I do without thinking.

First thing is find some glass that will give you a good tone. I have about a dozen slides I've collected over the years. I found that the thick, heavy ones are worthless for me (everyone is different). And that glass is better for me than metal or ceramic. I have more control and a better sound with a light, glass slide.

If you find a slide that works for you, that's half the battle. Once you find a slide that you find easy to control you are almost there. Use your fingers to pluck notes. The muting comes along almost naturally.

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Feb 8th, 2016 11:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I made a slide break-through a couple years back. Standard tuning. There was a guy on You-Tube that really made it clear for me what I had to work on. I put the time in and now it's something I do without thinking.

First thing is find some glass that will give you a good tone. I have about a dozen slides I've collected over the years. I found that the thick, heavy ones are worthless for me (everyone is different). And that glass is better for me than metal or ceramic. I have more control and a better sound with a light, glass slide.

If you find a slide that works for you, that's half the battle. Once you find a slide that you find easy to control you are almost there. Use your fingers to pluck notes. The muting comes along almost naturally.

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Feb 9th, 2016 09:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If you find a slide that works for you, that's half the battle."

This is so true!

And to confuse things even more, it can vary from guitar to guitar.
For me, I like ceramic on my electrics. I use glass or ceramic on my acoustic guitars. And I use brass on my resonator.

"everyone is different"

Also VERY true!

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Feb 9th, 2016 08:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Now that you get me thinking about it----it is sorta strange how I've never really thought about how I mute w/my picking hand as I do while playing slide guitar... As such it is impossible to explain in words..........

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Feb 11th, 2016 07:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have to use a brass slide for some reason. The glass and ceramic make me too rattley for some reason.
I just got a Boss GP-10 and to have the different tunings at the tap of a toe is great. I still cross myself up at times being used to strictly a standard tuning.
More power to the naturals cause I ain't one. I vary between adequate and someone killing a cat with a hobby knife! At least thats my expectation of the sound at times.
I mute with both hands in std. tuning but in open I use the fretting hand more. Then too I use a thumbtack mostly.

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Mar 3rd, 2016 11:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Unless the overtones are too noisy or sounds all kinds of wrong, I'll typically not use my fretting hand for muting. One notable exception being if I am going from a picked open string to a picked fretted note (w/slide). Then, I usually mute the string just as the slide hits it to avoid any clangs or rattles.

I mostly play slide fingerstyle (and thus use my picking hand to mute) and use ceramic slides from Rocky Mountain Slide Company. I like a thick, heavy one for acoustic and a thinner, light one for electric. I prefer to play in G and D-style tunings, but standard tuning works too.

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