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5Strats
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Jan 25th, 2016 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fender has a new Elite model of Strat out. I'm not sure where this is supposed to fit in the Strat model range or whether it replaces a model that had been around.

While you can't see it in these photos, the truss rod adjustment access is at the heel of the neck, but it appears you can tweak without taking the neck off.

I'm glad the LSR bridge saddles are back, otherwise, I'm not sure I see the point.

Elite

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Jan 25th, 2016 08:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They've re-invented the Strat.


Again.




5Strats
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Jan 25th, 2016 08:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I wonder if this is taking place of the American Deluxe model? If so, at least I'm well stocked with Am Dlx Strats.

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Jan 25th, 2016 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It is a replacement. American Deluxes have been discontinued (look at Fender's website and you'll see they've dropped the prices on them).

LHW

Southwest Florida

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Jan 25th, 2016 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

""They've re-invented the Strat.


Again.""

I agree with Pinetree. "New" model, with a couple modifications, at an inflated price.

(This message was last edited by LHW at 11:00 AM, Jan 25th, 2016)

5Strats
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Jan 25th, 2016 09:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

At least they left off that worthless "Passing Lane" button that came on the later period Am Dlx Strats.

ecfan

New Jersey USA

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Jan 25th, 2016 12:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"At least they left off that worthless "Passing Lane" button that came on the later period Am Dlx Strats."

The HSS model has the Passing Lane switch.

Elite Shawbucker HSS

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Jan 25th, 2016 12:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oops . . .

I never use the S-1 switching on my HSS Am Dlx Strats with this feature either.

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Jan 25th, 2016 12:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I ripped that stuff out of both of my Am Dlx Strats. I found it useless for my PU choices.

Other than the neck heel truss rod adjustment (it looks like a spoke wheel to me from the pics) and a price increase it's a renamed Am Dlx.

New generation noiseless PUs? I didn't like the old ones so maybe this is an improvement?

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Jan 25th, 2016 02:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Kind of like the truss rod adjustment Peavey instituted years ago.

Chris-K

MD, USA

Jan 25th, 2016 04:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd be much more excited to see more vintage color options on the Am Std models.

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Jan 25th, 2016 05:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, happily, they left off the three-pushbutton pickup selectors of the previous (1983) Elite Series attempt.

telegib

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Jan 25th, 2016 07:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't see anything to excite me this year with Fender. It's like they have taken it to it's limits and there is nowhere else left to go.

But then again Leo Fender pretty much did that in 1954.

The Elite guitars are nice no doubt but nothing groundbreaking IMO.

bmeredith

USA

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Jan 26th, 2016 07:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I really like the American Deluxe series, and have one of the Tele models. I was hoping to one day be able to get a Strat model too. I guess now's the time, since they are getting blown out.

I don't really have a strong opinion on any of the new features of this Elite series, except for that truss rod adjuster. That is an unsightly blemish on an otherwise fine looking instrument, IMO. I can't understand how that is considered an "improvement" over the headstock adjustment either. It looks like one of those gimmicks that Gibson put on their horrible 2015 Les Pauls.

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Jan 26th, 2016 10:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This series (Strats and Teles) just might be Fender's version of Gibson's embarassing failure when they reinvented the Les Paul with their 2015 "100" series.

Dear Gibson: next time, please pay a trained graphic artist to develop a unique font--rather than use a cheesy generic Windows font like you did in 2015

for the "100" on the headstock.

bmeredith

USA

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Jan 26th, 2016 10:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Dear Gibson: next time, please pay a trained graphic artist to develop a unique font--rather than use a cheesy generic Windows font like you did in 2015"

Or better yet, leave it the way it was!

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Jan 26th, 2016 11:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Exactly.

But as much as it may hurt to admit it, we're geezers and hung up on players like Les Paul, Jimmy Page, Paul Kossoff, Bernie Marsden, and others who played original-design LPs.

Younger players (buyers!) don't have the strong nostalgic connection to these early adopters of the Les Paul, so modernizing the line--including cosmetic changes--can be a good thing.

I think where Gibson went wrong in '15 was they should've brought out the changes in a less-expensive line because most players younger than 30 can't afford to drop $2K on a guitar.

Remember back in 1961 when Gibson brought out the "new" Les Paul (later became known as the SG)? At that point in history, you couldn't give away a Les Paul because they were considered "old man" guitars by the up-n-coming rockers of the time.

Fender is doing the same thing with this latest Elite line. It's big dice they're rolling, but they also have their tried and true lines still going to satisfy the Fender traditionalists.

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Jan 26th, 2016 12:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As with Fender under CBS control, engineers and designers need to do something to justify their existence. Many needless changes are made, cost accountants get their pound of flesh too. Add to this the comments from sales staff and the marketing group "We NEED something new and exciting" and the wheels come off rather quickly.

I don't envy these companies when the market is basically a replacement market and there are enough guitars in existence to last the world several decades with out another being built.

As us boomers continue to age out and die off the instrument market will shrink. These conditions are just the tip of the iceberg as the market keeps changing and companies attempt to be and have something for everyone.

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Jan 26th, 2016 10:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...comments from sales staff and the marketing group "We NEED something new and exciting"..."

Obviously many industries are like this. Certainly the auto folks are famous for it. I've spent a lifetime in the ski industry. Sheeeeeesh! Hype and jive to the max. The slopes are covered with folks who don't have a clue what they are doing and are *trying* to do it with gear that is totally inappropriate to the conditions and terrain they are skiing (or boarding).

Welcome to PT Barnum-land.

Paul L

New Jersey, USA

It looks just like a Telefunken U-47!
Jan 28th, 2016 10:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The "Les Paul 100" logo looks like it was scribbled on there by a child. Or a stroke victim.

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