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Viera
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Dec 21st, 2015 08:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like them both. Is the D-50 a maple back, sides & neck acoustic?



Ragtop
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Dec 21st, 2015 10:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Viera, the D-50 is the rosewood.

The D-46 looks like maple but is actually swamp ash on the back, sides, and neck. Sounds a lot like rosewood, maybe a bit brighter.

They were made 1980,'81,'82,'84 and '85, if memory serves.

reverend mikey
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Dec 21st, 2015 11:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ragtop, as a fellow Nebraskan, I'm curious where the owner was from (no names of course), and where you met up to see the guitar...

...btw, both guitars look incredible!

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Dec 21st, 2015 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

rm, she was from Grand Island. We met in the lobby of the Hampton Inn in York.

As I was leaving I said to my wife, "Goodbye, dear, I'm going to meet some woman I met on the internet at a cheap hotel in York!"

reverend mikey
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Dec 21st, 2015 09:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

LOL!

Have you every been to Ron's Music in Grand Island? He has enclosed cases along one wall with vintage Fender guitars and amps that will have you drooling all afternoon! Unfortunately you can't touch or play, but they're fun to look at. Tele's, Strat's, Jaguars and Jazzmasters, (maybe a Mustang, too), plus basses, and a bunch of old tweed, brown and blackface amps as well.

It's impressive...

Ragtop
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Dec 22nd, 2015 04:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, I've been there a couple of times, and that collection is mind-blowing. Cool to see that stuff up close.

Ragtop
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Dec 24th, 2015 10:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One last note on the D-50-

Just got it back from the guitar guy, who tweaked the neck a bit, polished the frets, and put a set of Elixer 13s on it. He really liked the guitar (which is older than he is); funny, because he's a death metal guy. He knows a nice acoustic when he sees one, though.

He drilled a hole for a jack, and I've got a K&K enroute from Shoreline Music in Durango.

I played it for an hour last night, and it appears to be the equal of my D-46, which is almost too much to expect.

I got real lucky with this one, it appears.

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Dec 24th, 2015 11:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That D-50 looks great. You're going to love the K&K.

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Dec 26th, 2015 12:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ragtop,

Very cool report on the tones, etc. The guitar tech that worked on it wasn't Rich at Dietze Music, was it? Your description sounds like him (younger than the guitar, etc.). He works on a lots of stuff for me these days too...if it's him... I'm getting lazy in my old age about doing my own soldering, etc. (esp. on hollow bodies).

Ragtop
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Dec 26th, 2015 12:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep, Rich it was. He nailed the setup on this one.

reverend mikey
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Dec 27th, 2015 09:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very cool. He just put a Bigsby on an '82 335 for Dan S (one of the sales guys there who is a monster player) and Dan said he nailed the set up on that as well - stays in tune perfectly and plays beautifully.

That's another strong endorsement. Plus, he's just a really nice guy.

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Dec 31st, 2015 10:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm installing the K&K right now, am waiting for the glue to set up on transducer #1.

This one has a rosewood bridgeplate. Not sure if I've ever seen that before. Nice piece of wood, too.

I was worried about the tight quarters, with a brace running pretty close to the high E end of the bridgeplate. So I stuck my phone in there and took a picture, which turned out great and helped me to visualize where the transducer needs to go.

Another odd thing: the saddle slot in the bridge is cut at an angle, so the saddle leans forward (towards the headstock). Don't know that I've ever seen that either.

reverend mikey
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Dec 31st, 2015 10:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is odd - maybe just more evidence that this guitar was handmade, not pumped out on a CNC machine?

As long as the intonation is okay and it's not going to cause the saddle to crack, it shouldn't be a problem.

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Dec 31st, 2015 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, if it were going to crack it would have done it by now, so no problem there.

I just checked my D-46, which was built 3 years later, and that saddle stands upright. It's intonated, too.



Transducer #3 is in place, so I'm waiting again for the glue to set up. The nerve-wracking part is over!

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Dec 31st, 2015 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If the saddle has been sanded too thin, it will lean forward from the string pull. If your slot is indeed angled, I would want the bottom of the saddle to match the angle for optimum energy transfer. I've never heard of a intentional leaning saddle but, I learn something new every day.

Ragtop
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Dec 31st, 2015 11:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, I went and looked, as you make a good point, jvstratman.

The saddle fits snug, so it's not too thin. I removed it, and there is a plastic shim underneath. The bottom of the saddle slot is still rosewood, so it's not cut through and through. Maybe the bottom of the slot is angled as well, can't tell.

The guitar tech that worked on it recently is the guy who pointed out that it was cut at an angle; I got the impression that he thought it was unusual as well.

And the K&K install is complete! I'll let it sit overnight just for the heck of it and restring it tomorrow.

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Jan 1st, 2016 10:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, this 37-yr. old guitar got plugged in for the first time an hour ago, and sounds like a million bucks through my Genz-Benz Shenandoah 150.

This has been my most rewarding rescue/renovation to date.

But enough talk, I'm going to go play some more!

twangdoodles

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Jan 2nd, 2016 07:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If your slot is indeed angled, I would want the bottom of the saddle to match the angle for optimum energy transfer."


If the slot was cut with a rotary tool, which it surely was, then the bottom will be perpendicular to the sides meaning that the saddle will need to be cut square, as with any other one. You'd have to slot it by hand to do otherwise and who'd do that?

jvstratman
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Jan 2nd, 2016 08:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Congrats on the K&K install. I have the pure mini in all my acoustics. BTW - I have the Genz-Benz Shenandoah 150 LT. Great Amps!

Ragtop
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Jan 3rd, 2016 03:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They are great amps. I like that I can run 2 guitars and 2 mics through it with enough horsepower to fill a medium-sized room.

(This message was last edited by Ragtop at 06:07 AM, Jan 3rd, 2016)

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