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Ragtop
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The older the violin

the sweeter the music.
Dec 20th, 2015 09:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I found this in central Nebraska, and brought it home as a companion to the '81 Guild D-46 that I've had for many years.

It is a 1978 Guild D-50. Purchased in 1978 in Washington DC by the seller's brother, who gave it to her as collateral for a loan back in the '80s. He never wanted it back and she got tired of storing it, as it sat unplayed for many years. So now it's getting played daily, which is what the seller was hoping for.

Came in the original case, with the original receipt from Veneman's Music in the pocket.

Twin Guilds

Ragtop
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Dec 20th, 2015 09:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

(Forgot to mention: that's the D-50 on the left, and the D-46 on the right.)

My plan is to set the D-50 up with .13s and keep it tuned down half a step.



Here's the other side of both:

Other side

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Dec 20th, 2015 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just beautiful.
Almost looks like a reunion.

RufusTeleStrat

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Dec 20th, 2015 12:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have one of those from 76-77 era. They play great and sound just a good. The funny thing is I think better than a Martin from the same era, yet thousands less.

Ruf

Ragtop
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Dec 20th, 2015 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's the rest of the story: I met the seller in a hotel lobby midway between us. As soon as I opened the case I could see that the neck had been off the guitar. Keep in mind that the CL ad said "Excellent condition, you'll never find a nicer one."

The other thing I noticed was that the top was like new. Not a scratch, not a ding. Same with the back, remarkable condition.

So she tells me that back in the mid-90s, some luthier told her it needed a neck reset (doubtful on a Guild). So she left it with him, and didn't hear from him for several months. When she finally got it back, he told her that he had trouble getting the neck off (true, Guild necks have a wide heel and are known to be hard to get off) and that the last inch or so of the heel, towards the back of the guitar, broke off. So in attempting to repair the guitar, he made the problem worse.

However, I gotta hand it to the guy, he did a very nice job of repairing the damage he caused. I can see a "Y" shaped crack across the top of the end of the heel, but just barely. The neck feels good, action is excellent, truss rod works, it's all good. Solid repair.

I told her that the damage devalued the guitar quite a bit. But after playing it for quite a while (I ended up with an audience in that lobby, it was fun, took a few requests!), I made her and offer and took it home. Her story as to why she didn't disclose the neck repair would make this story too long to tell, but I decided to take her at her word.

Let's just say I got it for pennies on the dollar and it looks like a million bucks and sounds just as good. It would be hard to sell, perhaps, but why would I?

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Dec 20th, 2015 06:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yikes! You gotta be kidding? Great score.

I have a Guild F47RC that had a defective neck (truss rod would not hold adjustment...must have been either poorly anchored, or the wood where the anchoring point was, was not solid, etc.). Fender still owned Guild then. It went to their custom lutherie shop in Nashville (for a good while). They got the neck off and built a completely new one for me. Even sent me photographs of the wood they were making it from.

When the guitar was returned to me, the quality of the repair was a jaw-dropper. Clean to the max. Not a ding or scratch anywhere. Guitar was beautifully handled, repaired and finished. Just amazing how skilled some of these cats are.


Edited for spelling, etc.

(This message was last edited by stratcowboy at 11:46 PM, Dec 20th, 2015)

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Dec 20th, 2015 07:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Amazing, they are both beautiful instruments! Congrats!

Ragtop
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Dec 21st, 2015 04:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stratcowboy, I've looked at your F47RC before in your profile. Stunning guitar, and rare- you just don't see them anywhere.

Also, I had planned to buy a different D-50 from another site. That one is $1600, and it is an '81. Its serial number is 975 higher than the D-46 pictured. They're like first cousins, and I thought it would be cool to own both.

But I couldn't pass this one up for 25% of the cost of the other.

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Dec 21st, 2015 08:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like them both. Is the D-50 a maple back, sides & neck acoustic?



Ragtop
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Dec 21st, 2015 10:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Viera, the D-50 is the rosewood.

The D-46 looks like maple but is actually swamp ash on the back, sides, and neck. Sounds a lot like rosewood, maybe a bit brighter.

They were made 1980,'81,'82,'84 and '85, if memory serves.

reverend mikey
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Dec 21st, 2015 11:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ragtop, as a fellow Nebraskan, I'm curious where the owner was from (no names of course), and where you met up to see the guitar...

...btw, both guitars look incredible!

Ragtop
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Dec 21st, 2015 12:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

rm, she was from Grand Island. We met in the lobby of the Hampton Inn in York.

As I was leaving I said to my wife, "Goodbye, dear, I'm going to meet some woman I met on the internet at a cheap hotel in York!"

reverend mikey
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Dec 21st, 2015 09:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

LOL!

Have you every been to Ron's Music in Grand Island? He has enclosed cases along one wall with vintage Fender guitars and amps that will have you drooling all afternoon! Unfortunately you can't touch or play, but they're fun to look at. Tele's, Strat's, Jaguars and Jazzmasters, (maybe a Mustang, too), plus basses, and a bunch of old tweed, brown and blackface amps as well.

It's impressive...

Ragtop
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Dec 22nd, 2015 04:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, I've been there a couple of times, and that collection is mind-blowing. Cool to see that stuff up close.

Ragtop
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Dec 24th, 2015 10:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One last note on the D-50-

Just got it back from the guitar guy, who tweaked the neck a bit, polished the frets, and put a set of Elixer 13s on it. He really liked the guitar (which is older than he is); funny, because he's a death metal guy. He knows a nice acoustic when he sees one, though.

He drilled a hole for a jack, and I've got a K&K enroute from Shoreline Music in Durango.

I played it for an hour last night, and it appears to be the equal of my D-46, which is almost too much to expect.

I got real lucky with this one, it appears.

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Dec 24th, 2015 11:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That D-50 looks great. You're going to love the K&K.

reverend mikey
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Dec 26th, 2015 12:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ragtop,

Very cool report on the tones, etc. The guitar tech that worked on it wasn't Rich at Dietze Music, was it? Your description sounds like him (younger than the guitar, etc.). He works on a lots of stuff for me these days too...if it's him... I'm getting lazy in my old age about doing my own soldering, etc. (esp. on hollow bodies).

Ragtop
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Dec 26th, 2015 12:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep, Rich it was. He nailed the setup on this one.

reverend mikey
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Dec 27th, 2015 09:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Very cool. He just put a Bigsby on an '82 335 for Dan S (one of the sales guys there who is a monster player) and Dan said he nailed the set up on that as well - stays in tune perfectly and plays beautifully.

That's another strong endorsement. Plus, he's just a really nice guy.

Ragtop
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Dec 31st, 2015 10:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm installing the K&K right now, am waiting for the glue to set up on transducer #1.

This one has a rosewood bridgeplate. Not sure if I've ever seen that before. Nice piece of wood, too.

I was worried about the tight quarters, with a brace running pretty close to the high E end of the bridgeplate. So I stuck my phone in there and took a picture, which turned out great and helped me to visualize where the transducer needs to go.

Another odd thing: the saddle slot in the bridge is cut at an angle, so the saddle leans forward (towards the headstock). Don't know that I've ever seen that either.

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