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ninworks
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Sep 6th, 2015 07:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Has anyone here had any experience with AVID's Eleven Rack guitar/amp modeler/audio interface for Pro Tools? I am going to upgrade my computer so I'll need a newer version of Pro Tools anyway. The Eleven Rack comes with Pro Tools and the hardware unit. I'm still using version 8LE with my old computer and I'm certain that it won't work with Windows 8 or 10.

According to some people online the Eleven Rack is a nice piece of hardware but I want to make sure it's not all just marketing hype. It's been out for a few years now so if there were any bugs in the original design maybe they have worked them out by now. They must be selling or I'd think they would have discontinued them by now.

My old Digitech modelers still work but some of the buttons are getting intermittent and the amp modeling technology has to be better now than it was when those came out. The Eleven Rack modeler systems are considerably more expensive than the Digitech units but if they are a far superior unit then they would be worth the difference to me.

littleuch
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Sep 6th, 2015 08:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ken, I have it as part of my PT 10 package. I honestly haven't used it a lot and have had more short falls than success when I did. I think much is user error.

Also, I have the software version, no hardware involved other than my Mbox interface.

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 10:42 AM, Sep 6th, 2015)

ninworks
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Sep 6th, 2015 09:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Larry. I have a lot of modeler experience going all the way back to the first PODs so tweaking it shouldn't be a problem once I get familiar with the user interface. I also have the Eleven Rack plug-in version but have yet to use it. The latency with my Mbox Pro is not bad but bad enough where I can't use the plug-in in real time due to the delay factor so I didn't see any reason to mess with it when the Digitech's worked so well.

I emailed my Sweetwater rep today asking if they still had any with Pro Tools 11 in stock. Pro Tools 12 is what they have listed on their site. The problem with PT 12 is that it requires annual licensing. PT 11 does not. I talked to the rep a few weeks ago and he said that at that time they still had a lot of them with PT 11. If I remember correctly the ones that come with PT 11 also have 10 and 12 as well. I'll have to wait and see what they have. I would imagine they are closed for the holiday weekend.

ninworks
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Sep 20th, 2015 07:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got the Eleven Rack and have had a few days to mess with it. The sounds are a much higher sound quality than my old Digitech GNX-3's. It actually feels like a real amp when you play it. The input sensitivity is there and when you turn down the volume on the guitar it cleans up like a real amp. I have been playing the Digitech's for so long that it's going to take me awhile to get used to that "amp" feeling again.

The factory sounds are surprisingly good compared to just about every other effects device I have ever used. I just got into editing some programs today after reading up on how to access some of the parameters. It's actually pretty simple once you figure out how they use the buttons and knobs on the panel. I'm never completely satisfied with any stock sounds and always have to fiddle with them to get it how I want.

There is no pitch shifter in it though. Not a big deal but there are times when I wanna get weird and that helps a lot. There is an effects loop in the unit so I could patch one in if I wanted to.

One feature that is absolutely the best idea I have seen in modelers is that you can move things around in the signal chain inside the unit. You can put the effects in whatever order you want either before or after the amp and cabinet modeling. I know I'm going to use that feature a lot.

So far I like it. I just need to get used to playing on it.

reverendrob
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Sep 21st, 2015 01:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep, those are pretty standard features these days (internal movement/chains/etc).

Modeling stuff has come a LONG way since that GMX3.

littleuch
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Sep 21st, 2015 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds very cool. I'm curious though, looking at Sweetwater it appears you can only get it bundled. What if you already have, say, Pro Tools 10 and just want the hardware?

reverendrob
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Sep 21st, 2015 11:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Call SW and ask?

ninworks
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Sep 21st, 2015 06:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You CAN get just the hardware and it will save you a couple hundred bucks. They are all over Ebay.

Sweetwater can help you out as well. That's who I got mine from and they were, as always, very helpful. The thing about dealing with Sweetwater is their customer support is second to none. I have bought many things from them over the years and I have been very pleased with the experience every single time.

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