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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / need P90 and Humbucker combo--help

telewired
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counting it all joy
Jun 15th, 2015 09:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

not for hard rock or thrash
Want this combination for ambient shoegaze--jazz--blues--fingerpicking country etc.
Just got the guitar today--had never played it-got it in a trade---
Now has a SD Vintage P90 in neck and SD 59 in bridge----

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Jun 15th, 2015 10:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a guitar with a P90 / humbucker combo that I use in a similar way. It came with no pickups installed. My choice was a Gibson Classic '57 bridge and Gibson P-90 using 50's style wiring (as opposed to modern). I'm not sure it's much different that what you have in there, and the combo really shines for those genres.

Perhaps you already have what you need.

telewired
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Jun 15th, 2015 11:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe the pots are off or something---just not warm sounding at all----
I will open it up tomorrow---what size cap is recommended?

wnstardis
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Jun 16th, 2015 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, out of specs pots may be a problem. The body I used was bare so I picked some out of my spare parts drawer that were close to 500k Log Scale, my caps were .022. The wiring is 50's style vs modern. I'm not a fanatic about these things, but since I was starting from scratch I did it the way I wanted. The circuit reacts differently and rolls off treble in a different way. The drawback is that the tone knobs for the different pickups interact with each other, so there's that. The pickups do seem more "open" to my ears, but perhaps that's just "confirmation bias".

I truly believe there is no right or wrong with these things, just "dealers choice"

Gibson 50's vs Modern Wiring

(This message was last edited by wnstardis at 10:17 AM, Jun 16th, 2015)

telewired
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Jun 16th, 2015 09:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

very good article---thanks---

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Jun 16th, 2015 06:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's a clearer diagram.

I go this way when a standard treble bypass (cap or cap & resistor across the volume pot) adds too much shrillness.

This is more subtle, but it does make a wonderful difference when rolling back the volume control.

"50s" wiring

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Jun 16th, 2015 07:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Those SDs are great pickups. There's something else going on. Here are a few things to check.

1. Are the pickups close enough to the strings?

2. If the cavities are painted with that black carbon shielding paint, you may have a resistive short between signal and ground in a cavity. Make sure all solder lugs on the signal side are clear of the cavity bottoms and sides.

3. You may have a lifted ground somewhere in there. Oftentimes you'll get signal--even when there's an open ground connection in the circuit. The sound will be anemic and weak, but they guitar still makes noise.

wnstardis
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Bill~~~
Jun 16th, 2015 08:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I totally agree Pegoo, and so is the SD 59.

telewired
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Jun 21st, 2015 03:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

will check it out---thanks for the tips one where to look---this was a Reverend Buckshot converted to this pup configuration---

telewired
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Jul 16th, 2015 12:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Guitar is sounding great now---still dialing in the heights--this is a 1V1T set up---which I prefer----for me the fewer the options the better----to a degree----really do like having a tone control and volume control--

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