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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / GFS humbucking P90 Replacement

neilp
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May 21st, 2015 03:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Has anyone tried these? I know there are some well liked high dollar replacement P90 pups around but I would like to get rid of the hum as I just do not play my P90 guitar outside the house because of it. When it's turned up to stage volume the thing just buzzes too much for me. Otherwise I just love the guitar! (A Gibson Midtown Semi-Hollow)

There are two versions - high output and low. So the next questions is which to get?

I generally seem to like higher output pups so am tempted but I have a notion that the lower output might suit the guitar better.

Opinions welcome!

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twangdoodles

michigan usa

May 21st, 2015 05:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I haven't any experience with these but have always been skeptical about whether it is possible to get a passable p-90 tone in a hum-bucking platform. So if it's the p-90 tone you're lookin' for then don't bother reading the rest of this post.

If you don't NEED the exact p-90 tone then why not just get some regular mini-humbuckers? They fit in a p-90 slot. I have a pair of old gibsons, a Seymour Duncan and a Kent Armstrong and the Duncan is my favorite (the "Seymourized" model). None of these are as cheap as GFS but aren't boutique-priced either.

neilp
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May 21st, 2015 06:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Interesting I was not aware they would fit. GFS has a whole page of conversion kits. I am not stuck on GFS especially but I like the low cost and have read good things about them here. If I don't like them I can take another path without wasting a bunch of $.

GFS P90 mini conversions

twangdoodles

michigan usa

May 22nd, 2015 05:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yep. At least you have some more options now...

neilp
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May 22nd, 2015 06:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I ordered some of the GFS mini humbuckers. I've never had a guitar with min humbuckers so it will be an interesting experiment. In the end I decided to go with the low output version. I'll post back with the results in a couple of weeks once they arrive and are installed.

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May 22nd, 2015 06:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The only GFS pickups I've tried were the Liverpool/DeArmond knockoffs. I put them in an Agile Cool Cat. Far from junky sounding pickups but I found them a bit undefined and not as "jangly" as I had hoped.


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May 22nd, 2015 06:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a set of their 'gold foil' pickups going into a project as we speak. These GFS gold foils are really standard-size P90s with slots cut in the tops of the plastic covers.

Electronically, they are a bit different from a typical P90. I figured I'd try them as much for the look as for the sound. Dunno how they'll sound in a Tele body but I'm gonna find out :o)

The version I got are stacked coil humbuckers. Info to follow as this goes together.

neilp
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May 24th, 2015 07:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I saw those Peegoo. Interested to hear your review of them once you have then installed.

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May 24th, 2015 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll post a review here when I get it all together. I have several P90 guitars to compare 'em to.

neilp
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Jun 2nd, 2015 11:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So I have installed the new GFS mini humbuckers in my Gibson Midtown semi hollow. I'm really pleased with the results except that the bridge pickup is a lot lower output. It is considerably farther from the strings . I have tried to get the pups more balanced but the neck pup screws are bottomed and the bridge are out of travel. I'm wondering if maybe I swapped the pups around by accident. But I think the issue is that due to the guitar's design the bridge pup is about half an inch lower.

I almost always play on the bridge pup anyway so the imbalance is not a huge issue but I would appreciate any ideas.

gdw3

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Jun 3rd, 2015 01:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got a Dream 180 for the neck position in my #1. I was very pleasantly surprised. My guess is the soapbar 180 will be similar.

The BEST thing about it, you will find, is the 2 sets of adjustment screws. I don't know why more humbuckers don't do this! You can really dial in the tone as well as the output of each string. So, at the neck position, if I raise the screw nearest the neck, it gets brighter as well as louder. But if I raise the screw furthest from the neck for that same string, it gets mellower as well as louder. A really great feature that they ought to publicize more!

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 03:41 PM, Jun 3rd, 2015)

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Jun 3rd, 2015 04:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You need to have that pickup no farther from the strings than 1/8" or so. Do this when fretting the two E strings at the highest fret.

neilp
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Jun 3rd, 2015 04:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think that I need some longer screws for the bridge pickup and to install some thicker foam under it. I think that should raise it enough. Perhaps shave the foam and shorter screws for the neck pickup wouldn't hurt either.

How hard it can it be? (Famous last words!)

I'm going to take it rehearsal this evening and give it a road test as it is though!

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