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gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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May 11th, 2015 01:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm considering putting a P-Rail in the neck position of my Les Paul, to try to get some more variety of tones. I like the guitar, but I am often left a little flat after playing it for a while. It has Burstbuckers in there now. Anybody have experience with these pickups?

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May 11th, 2015 06:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

One of my Tele Custom FMT HHs (say that in a hurry) has these in it. Strangely I had an idea to buy one and put some P-Rails into it. While looking on ebay I saw an FMT HH with P-Rails pickups already installed. Well that was serendipitous so I bought it.

I have not used it all that much as it is used as my second guitar to take to gigs and stays in open tuning. It gets used for 2 or 3 songs a gig. In fact I've been planning to use another guitar in that role so that I can get a better feel for the pups. But I do like them, they do have three distinct sounds. Now how close they get to a regular single coil, P90 and humbucker I really wouldn't say. In fact I think compared to my Gibson P90 equipped Midtown I'd say not that close... but the Gibson is a semi-hollow so that probably changes things. Always hard to compare. The P-Rails do have a nice growl though.

I probably haven't helped at all have I?

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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May 11th, 2015 06:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I thought it was a very lovely story. :)

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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May 26th, 2015 02:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

EDITED: No one else?

(This message was last edited by gdw3 at 02:00 PM, May 27th, 2015)

neilp
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May 26th, 2015 02:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't count? : -(

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May 26th, 2015 03:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No! Go to your room! haha I keed! I keed!

I don't have this pickup in any of my guitars. I've installed a few of 'em for customers, and they do offer up tonal variations not available from a typical splittable dual-coil pickup.

The P90 tone sounds good, but it's not quite a P90 tone, because a P90's coil (the ends of it) extends a bit farther out from the E strings than a standard-size humbucker package.

The single coil sounds good, but it doesn't sound like a Strat's neck pickup or bridge pickup. It's sort of like expecting a split humbucker to sound precisely Strat-like: it really cannot do that because of the magnetic pull on the strings 3/4" away from the operating coil. That does matter (among other differences).

In series, the coils buck the hum and sound pretty good. They're made by Seymour, and there are no bad-sounding pickups in his catalog. I have a bunch of his pickups in my guitars.

But remember these P-Rails are a hybrid pickup and because of that, it can't cop the actual vibe of the three pickups it purports to emulate; it does get close. However there's always a compromise when you try to do a lot of things at once.

This is not bad news though.

If you're looking for real tonal versatility in one guitar--the P-Rails is a pickup that will deliver it in spades.

gdw3

LA-la-land, CA

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May 27th, 2015 12:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I kinda figured it wouldn't be a true P90 sound. I'm just looking for something with more life for my neck position.

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May 27th, 2015 04:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, they'll certainly do it. Dnncan pickups are plenty musical.

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Dec 21st, 2015 10:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently installed a pair for a customer with mini toggles for mode selection. It gives loads of combinations and they all sound very good.
The individual tones are excellent too. I was skeptical but very surprised how good the P-90 tones were, especially on the neck position.
The humbucker tones were great and sounded medium hot but still bright. Great for Van Halen I thought but also great clean.
The single coil tones were the least impressive to me on their own but in combo with the other pup yielded great sounds.
If I had any money I would buy a set.

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