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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Lace Sensors De-mythed

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pombrio
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May 13th, 2015 11:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

PT, I have found better results using input 2 as well. Those pups are powerful and I treat them the same as an axe with HB's. I rarely use the boost, sometimes to add a little more sizzle when using a low gain OD pedal. Even then, I've never been above 4 on it.

These things (vol NMT 7, using input 2, etc) have helped reduce the "sterile" rap, at least for me, that LS pups have been tagged with.

Bubbalou
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THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Sep 23rd, 2015 05:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I hardly ever measure pickup to string distance. I lower them all the way and then raise them a little at a time until I get the sound I want (not getting so close to the strings that it affects the string intonation etc.) If I find them a bit high I may lower them some balancing tone with excessive string pull. If you get too close your string will sound warble and it will not intonation correctly (keep changing).

brennan77

down the bayou

Dec 7th, 2015 10:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I agree that the Lace Sensor is generally misunderstood. I recently had a work acquaintance, whom I discovered played a strat, lament the sterile and thin quality of Lace Sensors. I didn't have much of an argument against it, but I think I do now. I don't think Fender did the Sensors any favors with the stock set up of the TBX control.

After having my old strat plus for 20 years, I'm only just discovering some of the tones it is capable of. After high school/college, I sort of abandoned the guitar and only occasionally played it.

All this time I never found a bridge or middle tone I liked. Several years ago, I swapped the stock gold pups for a set of custom Hot Golds, with a slightly overwound neck and a hotter bridge. It still didn't give me what I was after and I kind of forgot about playing.

Fast forward to the last few weeks and I'm having a bit of an early mid life crisis, so I decide to get back into playing the guitar. I'm learning some Pink Floyd (youtube backing tracks make playing alone semi enjoyable) and I can't get near what I'm looking for in a lead tone. So I give myself a delay pedal for Christmas and I'm closer, especially on the neck position, which now is closer to the lead tone I've always imagined, oddly enough.

Next I decide to try Doc's Mod on the TBX tone control. Whoa! There's my guitar I've always thought I had. I'm so much closer to being where I wanted now. What was that? Was it a completely controlled pinch harmonic placed in the middle of a melody? Where was this bridge pickup I wanted years ago?

It's been a really satisfying experience and I'm thinking of replacing the TBX for a standard control altogether, if research proves this will be valuable. The other thing I'm considering is a Hot Gold Dually in the bridge position, split-able to retain this new tone I'm currently enjoying. I'm hoping this might get me closer to some of the sounds I hear in my head. (I'm a big Satriani fan but I own only one guitar)

Anyway, my point is that I was losing faith in my Sensors. But I think Fender did them a ton of injustice in coupling the stock golds in a passive setup with the TBX. I've only ever found use in the neck position (on a regular tone pot) and it nearly discouraged me either from playing or the sensors altogether.

ejm

usa

Dec 8th, 2015 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

brennan77: So for the benefit of the rest of us, what is "Doc's mod"?


brennan77

down the bayou

Dec 8th, 2015 09:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry. I actually found the mod on this forum. If you Google tbx and docs mod, you'll find an easy diagram to guide you. I'll upload an image when I get home later. Basically, it runs with the idea that there's a resistor on the control that suppresses the tone regardless of setting. In practice, this works well with the active mid boosto of models like the Clapton Signature. But it really strips a passive set up of life and body. The mod involves removing this resistor ando adding another in a jumper to create a smooth transition at the notched middle setting. 1 to 5 will then act like a regular 250k pot and 5 to 10 in theory acts like a 1k pot, coming close to no load.


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Doc's Mod TBX

(This message was last edited by brennan77 at 04:53 PM, Dec 8th, 2015)

Power Trio

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Dec 17th, 2015 10:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

only mod I made was to replace the stock tone pot .022 cap with a .015. worked out very well for me when I roll it back below the detent.

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