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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Gibson changed up their P90s...

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Apr 13th, 2015 10:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They're installing plain polepieces, rather than adjustable screws.

I wonder what that is all about.

CAN'T be about saving production costs!

for example...

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Apr 13th, 2015 10:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What!? As in what are they up to? That is a nice double-cut special, Oh Yeah! However, I have adjusted my pup screws on my Jr. my thought is its a very very small change. But since P90's are set straight to the body (at least the dog ear type) it is nice to be able to set the screws higher sometimes. I've read some where that these pups sound best if set higher to the strings than a typical Humbucking pup.

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Apr 14th, 2015 12:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I noticed that on some of the budget model Specials and things in GC the other day, I figured it was just on the lower-end models.

telegib

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Apr 15th, 2015 05:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Gibson says"Two P–90 Soapbar Alnico Slug Pickups: Brighter Tone with a more percussive attack"

Oh well...we'll find out eventually I guess.

Linky below.

Les Paul Special Double Cut 2015

twangdoodles

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Apr 15th, 2015 06:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe it's just me, but that body looks different than the traditional double-cut. Skinnier waist perhaps, and the horns look different too.

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Apr 15th, 2015 08:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Now that you mention it, I'll have to look at my dbl cut, it could be the angle of the picture. Could just be an optical delusion!

I read about a dozen reviews, most seemed positive, I think most of the standard P90's already have lots of snappy spank in them and it seams that's just what the related video in peegoos link suggest the new design is all about.


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Apr 16th, 2015 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

FWIW the first P90's from Gibson were in fact alnico slugs; you often see them on early ES125's. Adjustable poles came slightly later, maybe a year or two. No idea how the construction on the new "slug" models compare to those. I have tried other makers' alnico slug P90s and found them more like an oversized Tele bridge pickup, not really P90 in flavor at all.

telegib

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Apr 18th, 2015 10:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Itchy
You are indeed correct. I did some research and found out that they were used on the ES-125 from 1946 to 1950. Definitely nothing new. In fact I had forgotten that I had seen these on a vintage guitar picture some years ago.

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Apr 26th, 2015 09:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The cutaways are different.

The originals have the horns start 90 degrees, straight out from the neck. The newer shape is more Stratocaster-like, with a smooth curve from the neck into the horn.

It also looks like the neck on the new design is inset farther into the body.

Looky here.

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Apr 27th, 2015 11:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Nice comparison shot, another thing that is made clear is the angle of the non lighting bolt style bridge to the the newer type. I've often wondered about this too because I've thought about trying a smooth (old) style one on one now equipped with the (New) Lighting bolt design. Even possibly converting an Epi Special to this sort of arrangement. Will the stud have to be be moved back on the low E side of the bridge?

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Apr 27th, 2015 09:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, you'd have to squeege the treble-side stud forward by at about 1/8" or so to help with intonation.

And not all stop bars are the same. I find the ones that have a more sort of triangular cross section to play better than the ones that are a smooth even curve over the top.

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Apr 30th, 2015 06:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The cutaways are different"

Yep, thought so. Thanks for the comparison.

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