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fitz

Pocono Mountains USA

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Apr 5th, 2015 10:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just bought a Presonus Firestudio Project for a great price ($260). This came bundled with Studio One Mixing software which I loaded out of curiosity. I primarily used Garageband for recordings which was fine but I always thought it was a little to "entry level" looking although it certainly provides a lot functionality. I bought Logic years ago but barely used it because I spent more time trying to figure it out than actually using it.

Basically, I'll be recording my drummer, my guitar, bass, vocals and some midi horn parts but it will primarily live recording & not needing loops and all that other extra stuff. I'm just looking for some basic effects.

Can anyone comment on Studio One? My first look is that it sits right between Garage Band & Logic with a pretty simple and intuitive interface.

Thanks

mr.gibson

Hamilton, Canada

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Apr 14th, 2015 05:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I demod a bunch of DAWs and bought Studio One, eventually upgrading to Pro version. I'm a rookie, but in my view it is sophisticated enough, has good work flow, and is very good value for money. My stuff is based on vocals and real instruments, but S1 also has quite a bit of horsepower for those with inclinations to electronic Martian insect music, which seems very popular these days. There is a a useful toolbox of effects and virtual instruments, but I am not qualified to judge them against other brands. They work. I think it's a balanced DAW with potential to record great stuff.

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Jul 2nd, 2017 06:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've used studio one for a few years now. It does a first rate job recording wise but a bit finicky to set up for a duffer like me. I'm basically a "old dog" when it comes to computerized stuff like this.
The only drawback for me is the limited midi implementation that I used to have available when I was using Cubase. It was just a bit simpler for me.
On the other hand these programs are deep and workarounds will get you where you need to go. Studio One does a great job so far but I always feel like I don't really have a good grasp on it.
I'm afraid my old hardware days with separate modules etc. I won't give up hold me back from doing it all in "the box".

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Jul 2nd, 2017 07:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Presonus = toys.

Download the current Samplitude demo.

German folks seem to have goofy names for their products, but the software is very advanced.

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Jul 2nd, 2017 07:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I got mine on a deal day as well. I have Pro Tools 12, Reaper 5, Harrison Mixbus 32c and Studio One 3.5.

I can tell you that S1 is really a great DAW. If you are looking for basic tracking and mixing, many are created equal out there, and S1 is a great one to use for that. It is also very deep. It has pretty darn good editing operations, better than Mixbus and stock Reaper, but Pro Tool's is still the editing king with its batch operations and, in my opinion the greatest feature of any DAW ever, keyboard focus mode. Keyboard Focus changes all the most common keyboard command functions and makes them a single key stroke operation. I so wish other DAWs did this. It's really the only thing I love about PT. I guess the grouping features are also great... but it's a hog, buggy and very expensive($40 bucks PER CALL if you want AVID support) I digress.

I am on a big S1 kick right now. The other great thing is that it works seamlessly with my Presonus Fader port. So I have some buttons and a fader to work with for automation and running the transport.

S1 has it's own quirks though, and you definitely have to learn it. It punches differently than other DAWs, it creates takes and comps differently and it implements tracks differently. However, it is a great DAW. At only version 3, I can only imagine how good it will get in the years to come, especially considering the fact that they have a forum dedicated to listening to the communities requests for features or tweaks. The exact opposite of the AVID model.

S1 has had some CPU optimization done to it recently, and it works like a Ferrari. It's not quite as light as Reaper(which I love) but it is close. I had multiple virtual instrument banks as tracks and some audio I was tracking, all at 88.2khz sample rate and a buffer size of.... 32 samples. This is over Thunderbolt. Reaper also can do this down to 64 samples, and Pro Tools just strokes out.

BTW this is all on a new build I did with x299 platform and Kabylake i7 7700k proc and 16g of ram.

OH! And my favorite new part... they just released Studio one Remote for Android(it was on ipad already) So you can pretty much control the entire session from a smart phone or tablet. This is key for me being in another part of the house tracking drums to the computer. I can change levels, mute, solo, play and record all from a tablet on the wireless network. I can also grab multiple faders and write automation on the tablet, but not on a mouse!

As for Cubase and midi - yea, I don't think there is a single DAW out there that can touch Cubase when it comes to MIDI. I've though for a while I should pick it up JUST for MIDI-heavy projects...

Anyway - S1 is a nice "current" DAW - not mired in it's own tradition or bloated conglomerate business. It's trying to do new things and do them better. I would give it a solid chance. It may become my main DAW since Reaper is sort of in the past in many ways, and PT is just... a mess.

(This message was last edited by Achase4u at 09:56 PM, Jul 2nd, 2017)

ejm

usa

Jul 3rd, 2017 07:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just noticed that the original posts from fitz and Mr. Gibson are old and have been dug up.

They are from over two years ago.

They may or may not reflect their current feelings on the product.

If they are still around hopefully they'll chime in and give us an update.


Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Jul 3rd, 2017 09:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My post is only version 3 and up. I've owned it since December. As a current user of various DAWs, I think it is a strong contender.

Wonder what the legacy users think.

"Presonus = toys.

Download the current Samplitude demo.

German folks seem to have goofy names for their products, but the software is very advanced."

The first comment isn't helpful. I realize they have a slightly pro-sumer/budget reputation with hardware, but their foray into software is a serious one, and honestly I've seen pro studios use the Central Station and Al Schmitt's assistant uses a Faderport at Capitol... They are toys that pro's use.

Samplitude is rife with complaints of stability and high CPU usage if you read around the communities. There are downsides and upsides to every DAW. I think it would be more helpful to just focus on what those factors might be rather than being so dismissive.


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Jul 3rd, 2017 11:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Achase4u
Sorry if my post offended you.

I tried Protools, Cubase, and Sonor before settling on Samplitude.

In my opinion, all DAWs are flawed.
Nothing beats the Samplitude object editor except it's big brother Sequoia.
I have a rather old PC with only four gigs of ram.
It is very stable with high track counts and many plugins.
Perhaps I am lucky regarding stability issues.

I must admit that my Presonus experience is all about their 8 channel comps and their toy digital mixers which I have found to be unreliable.
I should have made that clear in my first post.


reverendrob
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Jul 3rd, 2017 11:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm still partial to Tracktion in its modern implementation (although the venerable Version3 still works on Win7, including with my 16 track interface!).

Can do batch/midi assigns to all sorts of stuff, has decent Mackie Control and other control surface support, etc.

And is stupid lightweight.

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Jul 4th, 2017 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Achase4u
Sorry if my post offended you.

I tried Protools, Cubase, and Sonor before settling on Samplitude.

In my opinion, all DAWs are flawed.
Nothing beats the Samplitude object editor except it's big brother Sequoia.
I have a rather old PC with only four gigs of ram.
It is very stable with high track counts and many plugins.
Perhaps I am lucky regarding stability issues.

I must admit that my Presonus experience is all about their 8 channel comps and their toy digital mixers which I have found to be unreliable.
I should have made that clear in my first post."

No worries and no offense taken - I just appreciate when someone can elaborate on their opinions in a public discussion when other people are possibly relying on the information to make informed purchase decisions.

Now I understand your position better. I've not used their digital mixers though I have seen them in front of house situations. Perhaps Presonus best products are in the software world.

And yes, all DAW's are flawed, that is for sure.

I appreciate your informative response.

(This message was last edited by Achase4u at 01:56 PM, Jul 4th, 2017)

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Jul 4th, 2017 11:57 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I'm still partial to Tracktion in its modern implementation (although the venerable Version3 still works on Win7, including with my 16 track interface!).

Can do batch/midi assigns to all sorts of stuff, has decent Mackie Control and other control surface support, etc.

And is stupid lightweight."

I think the lightweight portion is overlooked by many. It's seriously important when doing realtime audio and important for low buffer rates when mixing. Doing a Fader ride at 1024 samples is not fun.

reverendrob
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Jul 4th, 2017 03:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, I'm 128 with my interface and setup, I don't honestly notice a difference between it and 256, but I could..so...

64 is doable as well, but I just didn't see the point in pushing the hardware for no apparent reason!


Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Jul 4th, 2017 09:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, mixing is good at 256. Sometimes my session is too big to make that happen. Especially with UAD DSP plugs... go figure.

However, when tracking drums or any MIDI instrument, I really feel it if I'm not down at 128 or below. 64 or 32 is instant...

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