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BobRuth
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Apr 3rd, 2015 05:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My wife just found a contact friend of hers on FB selling a Squier Strat and an amp for $100 and it caught HER attention.

We went to see it and it was in great condition, no scratches, no dings, frets showed no wear. It was a blonde HSS model. The amp was a Crate MX10 but it was in the package so what the heck.

It sounded great, felt great, and will serve as a great "beater" guitar for gigs. But I did catch one thing that I thought was a little weird but, given where they come from... I just wasn't concerned. I noticed that there was no Squier decal on the front of the headstock. In fact, there was NOTHING in the headstock. Now on the back of the headstock the S/N is stamped on, along with the following:

A genuine Fender product
Designed in the USA
Crafted in China

Anybody ever seen one like that?

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Apr 3rd, 2015 06:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sounds to me like the owner removed the decal from the headstock face.

There are no Squires that are produced with blank headstocks.

BobRuth
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Apr 3rd, 2015 08:32 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well..... hmm.....I can't believe that anyone has started counterfeiting Squires. Could there have been someone so ashamed that it was a Squier not a Fender that they took it off? Surely not...

spud1950
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Apr 4th, 2015 03:11 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've seen that done before. It's actually not that uncommon to see the Squier logo removed for just that reason. Some people will go as far as to put bogus Fender decals on them.Really stupid.A good guitar is a good guitar no matter what it says on the headstock.

reverendrob
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Apr 4th, 2015 05:42 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, very very common. Altered/changed logos are standard to a point it's why the Epis etc generally have different headstocks, etc.

Cal-Woody

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Apr 4th, 2015 08:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some of the earlier models did have the large script Fender decal with the word 'Squier' in smaller type under the Fender logo.
Does the neck plate have Squier engraved on it?
Well, a question to the owner may clear it all up.

Enjoy your dilemma and the guitar!

Sometimes you just get LUCKY!

reverendrob
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Apr 4th, 2015 09:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Fender with Squier under it weren't China - that's the early MIJ or the black label "Squier Series" where the Squier was on the ball end and frequently rubbed off during the early transition to MIM stuff.

Chances are given the amp with it and the other stuff, an Affinity-level Strat but hey, for $100 if it plays and you're happy...run with it!

BobRuth
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Apr 4th, 2015 10:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, the neck plate is engraved. A larger font Squier over a smaller font Fender. It is very very light in terms of weight. My primary is a 96 MIM with 54 custom shop pickups. The first time I picked this new one up the lightness REALLY got my attention

Im happy as can be with it. It actually at this moment plays better than the MIM. Plays easier....

mirrorboy

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Apr 18th, 2015 04:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A Squier is a Fender anyway, isn't it?

spud1950
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Apr 18th, 2015 07:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some people like to argue the point.Designed by Fender,Squier brand named owned by Fender, but manufactured under contract in factories that have no degree of FMIC ownership by workers who are not actual Fender employees.

(This message was last edited by spud1950 at 09:45 PM, Apr 18th, 2015)

Tony Salieri

Houston, Texas

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Apr 24th, 2015 06:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm looking for some info & advice, and figure this thread is a good place to ask.

A thrift store near me has a Squier Stratocaster, they're waiting for "the guitar guy" to come in to help them price it. Unfortunately I have no idea if it works or what price they'll ask. I do know it'll need a good set-up, and someone adjusted the PUPs down level with the PG.

It has the normal sized Fender headstock. The headstock decal shows Fender Stratocaster very clearly, you have to look really closely to see Squier. The back of the headstock shows Made In Korea. The saddles are stamped Fender.

What do y'all think of the MIK Squier Strats?

Edit--BTW/FTR I did searches for Korea and MIK in this subforum before postin, and the general consesus seemed to be the MIK Squier Strats can be simply decent to really good.

(This message was last edited by Tony Salieri at 08:31 AM, Apr 24th, 2015)

reverendrob
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Apr 24th, 2015 08:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dismal to average, with a few outliers (the MIK Pro-Tones come to mind), but I'd value a current run MII VM Squier higher than any vintage MIK model personally.

Tony Salieri

Houston, Texas

I'm a tone deaf hack.
Apr 28th, 2015 06:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...A thrift store near me has a Squier Stratocaster, they're waiting for "the guitar guy" to come in to help them price it.
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What do y'all think of the MIK Squier Strats?
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"Dismal to average, with a few outliers (the MIK Pro-Tones come to mind), but I'd value a current run MII VM Squier higher than any vintage MIK model personally."

They still haven't priced it, which is no big deal to me one way or the other. The thrift store is ran by a rehab ministry for men (mostly younger guys) with addiction problems. I wouldn't be surprised if the MIK Squier Strat winds up with one of them. Maybe it'll help give the guys some direction away from addiction.

Acidhouse

Birmingham

Apr 29th, 2015 04:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"What do y'all think of the MIK Squier Strats?"

MIKs are all over the board. It sounds like you may be describing a Fender Squier Series. There was a discussion on another forum about these, they were considered Fenders but were made cheaper. If it's that one, it's still a ply body, ceramic pickups, etc. Probably as a CN2 or 3 serial number. I don't think much of them but they have a following and if the price is right, you may be able to flip it. E7 or E10 and you are dealing with a MIK that is near the top. CN6 and you may be dealing with a guitar with Pro Tone specs. The trick with MIK is to look at the label. Usually the good ones have a silver or gold logo. Black logos not so much.


davisonvw

Idaho

Apr 30th, 2015 08:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Don't wait for them to price the guitar... thrift stores (especially ones with "specialists") like to price high (in my experience). About 2 months ago my wife and I went on a road trip to Bend Oregon and a similar thrift there had a Squier Affinity Strat priced at $300. It had signatures of a (I assume) local band on it. I asked why they are pricing a guitar I can get new for about $100 at a guitar shop so high and no one could tell me. Locally, Goodwill prices up beater guitars for the same price I can get a nice new one for.

What I'm trying to say is, just get a new guitar...

Tony Salieri

Houston, Texas

I'm a tone deaf hack.
May 5th, 2015 08:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Acidhouse, thanks for the detailed info. I've saved it for future reference.

davisonvw, I've has similar experiences with thrift stores, resale shops, pawn shops, etc. I've seen Squier guitars priced to move, and priced You-must-be-joking. But I've also ran across a few (very few) good deals. The main thing was I had a good idea of what they had, and they didn't. In this case neither of us knew.

If I'm in the store and they have it out, I'll check the serial number. Even if a better quality Squier, it would have to be priced really cheap, which most likely it won't be.

Note--I bought a Selmer solid wood (not composite) made in France alto clarinet at Goodwill for $14.99 + tax. It needs some relatively minor work, re-padding & re-corking, but would easily retail for about $325.00 in its current condition.

reverendrob
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May 6th, 2015 03:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You won't even really have to check the serial - the Pro-Tones are the only real diamonds in the rough IMO.

The "First year Koreans" etc....just sort of makes me laugh.

And I love a good bottom feeder and overlooked treasure more than the next dude, but...the MIK Squiers were why I avoided the brand for so damn long.

Tony Salieri

Houston, Texas

I'm a tone deaf hack.
May 24th, 2015 03:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They priced the Squier Strat at $159.99. At that price, and the condition of the guitar, I don't even care what SSN starts with.

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