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swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Mar 28th, 2015 08:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been auditioning for a few bands lately, but the only bass amp I have is an Ampeg B100R that I bought for practice and small venues. Although I've seen them used mic'd in larger venues I'm not sure the little 100 watt combo is up for regular gigging duty.
What would be a good, inexpensive step up In either combo or head and cab? Or is the little B100R adequate?

fsmith
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Mar 28th, 2015 10:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a B100R, and I use it in a no-drums 3 man and it works fine. With a drummer, different story. Have to really push it, and it degrades at upper volumes.

Get a head with at least 200-250 Watts, and some kind of a cab. I have 2 old(er) GKs, a 400RB and an 800RB. They have both held up like tanks. I'm partial to cabs with 15s, but lots of different opinions and preferences about speaker size. I had a couple of Avatars I really liked.

Bubbalou
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Mar 28th, 2015 12:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

GK 700 RBII is a great head
There is a combo amp with a 500 watt RMS output that GK makes. I love my Genz Benz Streamliner 600 watt Hybrid with 3 12AX7's in the preamp section. You might find them on EBAY. Peavey makes great amps. Avatar cabs are nice for the money. Used to have 3 of them 2 15"s then just 1 15" and 1 2x10"
GK makes good cabs too.

BonkersBass

Tejas

Do'in the 5 string thing!
Mar 28th, 2015 12:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So many options! Without knowing more specifics about your band opportunities, style of music, size and type of venues, etc., it's hard to make a recommendation. If you are focused on buying new and like the Ampeg tone, the Ampeg Portaflex series of small heads and cabs might be a good choice. You see them fairly often in music stores both new and used. They sound like an Ampeg, but prices are competitive.
I to like Genz Benz but Fender shut them down, so used is the only option there. They also tend to be pricey. Another lower cost option might be Hartke. Their LH series heads have a lot of bang (and volume) for the buck, and their hydrive series cabs sound great and get very good reviews.

shaffl

USA

Mar 29th, 2015 02:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I gig either my Carvin BX500 or GB shuttle 6.2 over a few different cabs. Excellent with a pair of Fender rumble 115s or my super lightweight GK MBE 212 4 ohm standalone. I have a few options with this but my main consideration is weight and compact size. Still, it all sounds really good and I can load in and out easily regardless of what I decide to take.

If you are going to play out and load this stuff week in and week out I can't imagine anything other than the class D/neo/lightweight/compact stuff. There are so many good choices.

6G6

Texas

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Mar 29th, 2015 04:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How loud do you expect to need to be?
Double that, someone will turn up to 11.
What's your budget?
What kind of transport do you have?
Do you want new only or is used a good option for you?
How is you back?
There is a lot of older, great gear out there
that can be had for cheap, because it's heavy.
If you are young and don't mind moving it, that could be a viable option.

swampyankee
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olde New England

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Mar 29th, 2015 06:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think.we'll be playing mostly pop, blues and some modern country. No heavy rock. I'm hoping to find something used, and my back is fine.

BonkersBass

Tejas

Do'in the 5 string thing!
Mar 30th, 2015 11:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here's a suggestion then - since you like Ampeg (I presume), how about a used Ampeg B2R or SVT 350H head into one of the Ampeg 4 x 10 cabinets, also used. I like the Classic series, either the non-ported 4 x 10 (for that SVT tone) or if you play 5 string, the 410 HLF. That is one of my favorite cabs, but be warned, it's a beast. Being 4 ohm, it will utilize the full power of either of those heads. I've seen the heads available locally on Craig's list for as little as $200, and the cabinet in the $300 to $400 range (for the 410 HLF). Makes a great gig rig that will handle almost any club or reasonable size venue. As always, YMMV.

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Mar 30th, 2015 03:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

See if you can find a Gallien Krueger MB210 with NEO speakers. 500 watts and has a built-in XLR out, and doesn't weigh a ton. Also has a speaker out if you want to expand your rig later. The 1x15 is only 200 Watts.


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Mar 30th, 2015 03:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use a TC Electronic RH-450 head. Nice and lightweight, built in tuner, overdrive.

Then I have some homebuilt 15" cabs I use with it.

I'd go with separate head and speakers.

I'd get something in the 500 watt (solid state) range.

swampyankee
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olde New England

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Mar 31st, 2015 05:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

500 watts? Do I need that much power for non-hard rock music?
I saw a review for the Rumble series and I like the features. Pretty similar to my B100R as far as controls.
I see a Fender Rumble 200 head for $200 and a Carvin RL 6815 cabinet also for $200, all for sale locally.
I'll see what the band thinks of putting some bass through the PA. If so, I might even be able to get away with just using the B100R??

6G6

Texas

Fender power to the people!
Mar 31st, 2015 07:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Even if you don't plan to be loud,
a bit of extra power is a good thing.
That headroom lets you stay clean and gives
you an edge on quick transient peaks.

Then too, you never know what the future might bring.

mroulier
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Suburban MD.

Are your prayer beads maple or rosewood?
Mar 31st, 2015 11:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

With the class D amps available now, lots of power is now available on tap in previously unheard-of amp sizes. So why not take advantage?

Bubbalou
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Mar 31st, 2015 04:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

By having more power than you need you never drive the amp into distortion which can damage speakers. I try not to set my amp to more than 2/3's full power. Class D amps are so light weight. Mine is 600 watts RMS and weighs 6 lbs.

BonkersBass

Tejas

Do'in the 5 string thing!
Mar 31st, 2015 04:44 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The new Rumble Series (V3) sound great. I bought the Rumble 200 combo and it is an awesome amp for the weight and money. It will keep up with a drummer and two guitarists in a rehearsal situation, without strain. However, as others have mentioned, having a little extra power on tap is a good thing. I normally gig (small to large clubs) with a 2x12 cabinet and 600 watts. Never had the amp up past 4 on the master volume control.

shaffl

USA

Mar 31st, 2015 06:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"500 watts? Do I need that much power for non-hard rock music?"

There are way too many variables to answer that. Room size? PA support or no? Extension cab or no (that rumble 500 combo will only deliver the 500 watts with an 8 ohm ext. cab).

What I will say is if I'm doing the playing out thing at real bass player gigs then I want the best tone with the most power in the smallest lightest package. So you have choices. Lots of them.

swampyankee
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olde New England

If you can't play good, play loud
Apr 1st, 2015 09:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool thoughts, Thanx. I'm hoping my little Ampeg B100R will be sufficient for practices for now. That will give me some time to pull together an adequate gigging rig.

Tony Wright

Stillwater, OK

Built for comfort, not for speed.
Apr 1st, 2015 10:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am comfortable with my GK MB210 combo (first generation). It weighs in around 35 pounds and puts out 350 Watts thru the internal 2-10s. If I need more, I can send out 500 Watts by adding an 8 Ohm extension cabinet.

I have seriously looked at the new Ampeg PF350 8 pounds, 350 Watts at 4 Ohms. (There is also a 500 Watt model).

For a speaker cabinet "IF" weight were no problem, I would go with one of the Ampeg 410 (the SVT410HLF is a very nice cabinet if you like DEEP low end.

The Avatar 410 with NEO is a nice lighter weight option.

But for me, weight is a bigger problem today than just 3 years ago...old age sucks.

There are lots of NEO options on the market. Just because your back is fine today....well, you get my point.



Bubbalou
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Apr 3rd, 2015 09:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use 2 GK 112-1 (single 8 ohm 12" speaker) so I can carry them individually because of back. Used together they are 4 ohms. A GK 212 (2 Neo 12's at 4 ohms would be nice)


swampyankee
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olde New England

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Apr 4th, 2015 07:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm seeing some nice Ampeg PF rigs out there for the $500 range. A PF500 on a flip top 1x15 and 2x10 cabs. All for $500. Looks like a nice setup to use either or both cabs

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