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Coral Head

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Mar 4th, 2015 05:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have several nice acoustics but am thinking about something more suited to a band setting with an electric style neck (Fender rather than Gibson style).

On line, I have seen the Godin A6 and Acousticaster, the Acoustasonic Telecaster and a couple of others. My friend has a Taylor T5 which I do not like.

What thoughts have you?

Thanks,

Colin

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Mar 4th, 2015 05:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I once had a Guild Songbird that was very nice. Wish I still had it. Check 'em out; pretty scarce, but worth waiting for. Great necks.

The later versions were called S4CE, I believe.

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Mar 4th, 2015 07:26 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've owned both a Godin A6 and a A12 - I think they would be perfect for what you want.

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Mar 4th, 2015 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

In the mid 1980's I owned a solid body acoustic. The Gibson Chet Atkins model. Wish I still had it.

Now just last week I was at a local Mom&Pop guitar store and they had a Multiac Godin guitar. Made me realize just how much I miss that solid body acoustic I once owned.

Try and find the Godin at a store near you and play it. I'm certain you will like it.

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Mar 4th, 2015 09:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a Guild Songbird for years and just loved it. Gigged with it in a cover band for at least 15 years.

Then came a Gibson Chet Atkins SST. Wow, the best sounding solid or semi-solid AE I have ever played.

I sold the Songbird and kept the Gibson. Neither guitar is in production so it's a used market. Either guitar seem to command about $800-$1200 selling price.

I never cared for the Fender offerings in this market.

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Mar 4th, 2015 10:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This guitar was made by Chicago luthier Ben Frye when he lived in Green Bay, and I bought it used in St. Paul. The top is red cedar and the body (sides/back) is routed from a single piece of mahogany. It's great to play and projects nicely acoustically. I put it aside periodically, but every time I get it out, I wonder why I put it away.

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Mar 4th, 2015 01:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a 1994 Parker Fly. The design may bother you but the electric and acoustic tones are excellent IMHO. Great gigging tool. Not sure what a used one would go for, but it was about 2K when I got it.

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Mar 4th, 2015 04:08 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love that CVH !!!

Dadzmad

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Mar 4th, 2015 10:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've had a Guild S4ce for about 14 years. Use it with a Trace Elliot TA30. The problem with these is the old style Fishman under saddle pickup is really quacky. I added a Pick up the World Quackbuster soundboard transducer mounted behind the bridge and wired in parallel with the under saddle and ahead of the built in pre amp. This really transformed the amplified sound of the guitar. Sounds great going straight to the amp with no added eq. I think that the design of the guitar was ahead of the electronics of the time and a dual source setup really makes them sound nice. A few years ago these were really out of style and could be had for $650 or so. Lately I see them going for around a grand its a Westerly Guild and a quality piece. The songbird / S4ce is a fine player and in my opinion a sleeper.

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Mar 4th, 2015 10:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fishman makes a piezo saddle bridge system (Power Bridge) that drops right into a Strat or Les Paul.

I've seen Pete Townshend play live with it and the acoustic tones are pretty convincing.

It runs about $300 for a Strat and $200 for a Paul.

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Mar 6th, 2015 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Fishman makes a piezo saddle bridge system (Power Bridge) that drops right into a Strat or Les Paul."


FWIW, I had a Nashville Tele with the Fishman Power Bridge and I did not find the piezo tones to be pleasing at all.

If it sounds like an acoustic with a piezo pickup, to me that's an indictment. They just sound awful to me.

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Mar 6th, 2015 09:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got at least 6 solid body guitars with piezo bridges starting when I put a Fishman Power Bridge on my '68 Tele when they first came out. I've got that Tele, two Strat types, my LP knockoff, a 12 string and a solid body acoustic I built around a Fishman undersaddle pickup.

Being able to get realistic acoustic tones depends on the gauge of strings, and what you plug into. The closer you get to acoustic gauges the better the acoustic like tone. 9-42 won't do it. I used to run a 10-52 hybrid set on my Tele but replaced the 52 with a 58.

A full range amp works best, along with active tone controls. Acoustic amps are great, keyboard amps are good, if you have a preamp in the guitar, and bass amps with tweeters will work fine, or go straight into the PA again with a preamp.

Fishman power bridges have very high output, without a preamp and can actually overdrive the input of an amp. I've had to pad down every one I have in guitars before going into preamps or amplifiers. I suppose the Fishman electronics that go into the guitars for these bridges does that in the circuitry.

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Mar 7th, 2015 09:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have two Godin acoustic guitars that are solid body. One is the nylon classical style which plays well ,the midi output is great but the sound just leaves me cold. It's action is nice ,it plays well. It justs leaves me wanting some "body" sound to it. The steel string model is the same. Maybe a bit better but still kind of lifeless.

Steve Dallman
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Mar 8th, 2015 01:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I still have an old DOD Meatbox pedal. I didn't like it on bass which it was designed for, but one day, I tried it on a solid body "acoustic" guitar I built and later on my Tele with Fishman bridge. I left the octave below off. The other tone controls added very realistic "body thump" which got me even closer to authentic acoustic tone. The two controls are boost/cut and centered at 35 and 60Hz. Perhaps they are more specific than just a low eq control, or the Q works better.

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Mar 8th, 2015 01:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not saying achieving a good sound is impossible with a solid body,just saying you have to work at it and still might not be happy with the results.

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Mar 8th, 2015 03:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I may be missing the point of this thread, but if you're looking for a giggable great sounding acoustic with a slim neck and ultra low action, a Taylor should fit the bill nicely, and I'm sure there are plenty of other manufacturers making similar guitars.

If you're set on a solid body acoustic, I've never played one, but I did have a Tele shaped acoustasonic about 20 years ago that sounded and played awful.

(This message was last edited by Ayns at 05:08 PM, Mar 8th, 2015)

Ayns
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Mar 10th, 2015 09:27 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

On further reflection I think it was actually a Kramer Ferrington(?).

Awful.

Coral Head

Sunshine State

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Mar 11th, 2015 08:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the input everyone. I have taken a chance and ordered one of these.

I will report back when I get it. It's not that expensive and looks like a good compromise.

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jay1vinton
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Mar 13th, 2015 02:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry to hear about the Ferrington. I was going to post that I always wanted one....

VanGoghsEar

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Mar 24th, 2015 12:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got two of them.

A Fender Santa Rosa sometimes available used for about $350. Like a mellow electrified piezo acoustic. 24 frets, Fender style 6 tuners on one side headstock, thin solid wood body. I like the tones of the Santa Rosa myself; more pleasant than the average piezo tones.

My other one is the Michael Kelly Hybrid Special. Fishman power bridge acoustic blender, humbuckers, stereo or mono output options, blendable tones, split coil humbuckers, extremely versatile guitar and only about $650. Still available new.



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