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tahitijack

San Clemente, CA

Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jan 15th, 2015 04:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The mail man just finished reading my copy of Guitar Player and handed it over this week. There is an interesting article comparison of a 1998 HRDLX and a new Hot Rod III. I won't spoil it for you but its worth a look. A couple of other pieces worth the price, but let's not get off talk with the OP.

Grey Goose
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USA/MN

What?
Jan 16th, 2015 06:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Most of us won't be getting this, so spoil when ready.

5Strats
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Edmond/OKC

AXE VICTIM
Jan 16th, 2015 07:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just got this in the mail too. I'm curious to find out GP's conclusion on these two versions of that amp.

ps - I prefer the 4x10 Deville, but think this line of amps is really good.

tahitijack

San Clemente, CA

Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jan 16th, 2015 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK...spoiler alert!

If you like it clean and loud the '98 HRDLX is a good choice, BUT the upgrades on the new HRDLX III make it the clear winner.

GP kind of sits on the fence, but they are probably right. It's hard to beat the original, but for some the changes in the new version might be worth the extra bucks to buy a new one.






Grey Goose
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USA/MN

What?
Jan 16th, 2015 12:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a 2005 HRDlx, I liked it quite well.

Thanks for the article review...

reverendrob
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When I sin

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Jan 17th, 2015 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't like the speaker choice in the new ones - I have one of the first MIMs (2004-5ish if I recall) and like the stock choice and the abusive gain channel when I want that level of stupid.

It's like a HM-2 - I wouldn't use it every day, but when you want a chainsaw, you *want* a chainsaw.

telegib

Canada

Jan 17th, 2015 09:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I own an older MIM HRDlx. I brought home a HRDlx III and set them side by side.

I preferred my old one. It had more sparkle and chime to the high end and I appreciated the extra midrange produced by the Eminence speaker. I also tried the Blue cabinet version with the Celestion speaker but I found it lacked the warmth of mine as well.

There is such a broad sweep to the midrange control on my HRDlx that if I wanted to reduce mids it takes out more than enough IMO.

I wouldn't trade mine.

tahitijack

San Clemente, CA

Happy Sunsets, tahitijack
Jan 17th, 2015 01:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

telegib,

GP pretty much agrees with your comments about the 1998 version.

I had a 2001 Hot Rod Deluxe and loved it, but eventually traded it for a Super Sonic 22. Like them both. Can't say one is better than the other..just different amps. Still have good memories of gigs with the HRDLX. I always thought it played a lot louder than its rating. Nothing wrong with that.



telegib

Canada

Jan 17th, 2015 01:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have to get the GP mag and read the review.


reverendrob
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Jan 17th, 2015 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd heard a few HRDs modded with Celestions and didn't like them in the slightest.

But I intentionally put in the hardest-rated Tung Sols I can in the power section - I want chime and clean and boom and the Celestion doesn't really go there.

DanL

Northern CT - USA

"We're not University material."
Jan 22nd, 2015 11:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I own a late 90's HRDeVille 2x12. At rehearsal the other night I played thru a friend's HRDLX that he bought about 10 years ago.

Thought it sounded pretty good - not great - but who knows how old those tubes are? Clean channel is big, midrangy and beefy like my DeVille. Drive channel wasn't so great for crunch rhythm (OD is way too loose for me), but I was able to coax some decent tones for single note lead lines for blues and classic rock. As a lot of guys do, using dirt pedals into the clean channel is the way to go with the Hot Rod series amps. Just my opinion.

Been meaning to check out the supposedly improved, tighter drive channel in the III version. Pretty sure that's what they've been advertising anyway. Just haven't gotten around to it yet. The Hot Rods would be absolute killer amps if they could tighten up the drive channel. If a Hot Rod could get you into the overdrive ballpark of the SS22, that would be a monster amp.

champster
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Oceanside, CA

Jan 23rd, 2015 02:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I bought one just after they came out. It's been a great amp. I replaced the stock speaker with an Emi. RW&B. Better tubes both preamp and power. I also did the tone stack mod which helps out the low end and also the drive channel.
For now I'm letting a friend use it and I may have trouble getting it back.

telegib

Canada

Jan 23rd, 2015 07:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Forget the overdrive channel on these amps. To grainy sounding for me. I always use a pedal in front of mine.

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Delco, PA

"What a long strange trip its been"
Jan 30th, 2015 03:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My first Fender tube amp for gigging was a 2006 HRDLX and I used it clean with pedals. It was actually the late stratman55 who recommended it.

Got rid of it to get a DRRI. Don't get me wrong, the DRRI is almost perfect but it can't sound like the DLX. That's a shame. I should get another but it's too loud to do smaller gigs. It's a classic for sure. IMHO

Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

Jan 30th, 2015 03:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So where do you go to buy a magazine today? I mean the only place I ever buy one is at an airport news stand while I'm traveling. No trips for a while! :-)

At one time I had 3 HRDlx amps now down to one and a modded chassis. I used them for backline work when I was providing that sort of thing and PA on a regular basis for local shows. All early ones US built and they always worked great. I never liked the OD/boost channel but they sounded very good on the clean channel with pedals. The remaining HRD is a loaner I give to amp repair customers who need an amp for a gig while I have their amp on the bench for service. A few have wanted to trade horses.

I can't say I'd like one with a Celestion. I never like any model of that speaker with an open back BF sounding amp. It's a different story with a closed back cab like an old 2-12 Bandmaster.

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ohio

Home of the Goodyear blimp
Jan 31st, 2015 07:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a USA version and now have a hrdx3 . I prefer the 3 . Not as icepickey on the cleans and useable drive channels IMO. Plus the volume doesnt go from not loud enough to window blowing in a twitch. I can actually use mine at home to practice.

DanL

Northern CT - USA

"We're not University material."
Feb 12th, 2015 07:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If most guys prefer to use dirt pedals through the clean channel of the Hot Rod series amps, why doesn't Fender either fix the darn drive channel (to make it sound something like the SS22 drive channel), or just get rid of it?

Seems like such a waste to me.

reverendrob
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Feb 13th, 2015 01:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's a case of their target market is so broad there's no way to make *a* gain channel that makes everybody happy.

They've hedged their bets and made nobody happy.

Except me on the V1 and V2 and I want to make the thing spit and puke with octave fuzz.

Grey Goose
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USA/MN

What?
Feb 13th, 2015 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I never had a problem with the HRDlx drive channel. But I used it to warm up and knock the edges off of the clean channel. I never was trying to get a great distortion sound.

telegib

Canada

Feb 13th, 2015 08:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The mail man just finished reading my copy of Guitar Player and handed it over this week. There is an interesting article comparison of a 1998 HRDLX and a new Hot Rod III. I won't spoil it for you but its worth a look. A couple of other pieces worth the price, but let's not get off talk with the OP."

Which month's copy is it? I can't seem to find it.


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