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FDP Forum / The Chop Shop / Metronome Lesson Pt 1 VERY BASIC

Tyrone Shuz

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Jan 13th, 2015 11:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This lesson is for beginners EXCEPT that the technique can be used for advanced chords too. I still use this technique if I'm learning a difficult chord, but for this video I used basic open chords. Part 2 will be up soon and involves how to find a playable tempo for any lick or passage.

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Jan 13th, 2015 11:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Ty, I like the approach.

I'm missing the voicing on your preferred *A* chord.

I see a slight fingering change, but I'm not picking up the detail.

Side note: my big fingers manage the basic three string bar cleanly with just two fingers, but I have a feeling you may have something else there?

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Jan 13th, 2015 12:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

He uses his middle finger on the 4th string, index on the 3rd, and ring on the 2nd. I noticed you did that in another vid, Tyrone. I've actually never noticed anyone finger it like that before. I fret it like this: index - 4th, middle - 3rd, ring - 2nd. I think that it achieves the same thing in playing the chord better in tune, and believe that it's actually a little more efficient getting to the D chord, since the middle doesn't have as far to go. Maybe a little less efficient going to the E. So, it's all a compromise, right? But I will say your method does lend itself to be in position for a commonly-used double-stop 6th lick using the 2nd & 4th strings.

I like the video, and like the approach about strumming more once you notice you're getting ready and waiting.

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Jan 13th, 2015 01:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, got it now.

Somehow I thought I heard the word "voicing* so I was looking for something not there. Actually Ty said better "intonation" ... my mistake.

I do that crap now and then. ;)

Tyrone Shuz

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Jan 13th, 2015 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I learned it the way gdw does it, and I explain that in the video, but the 2-1-3 method gets your fingers closer to the frets, and you actually get to keep a finger down going to D, and it's much easier going to E.

Either way really is OK.

But for you intermediate and advanced players you can use the same method with complex jazz chords or a section of chord-melody. I still use this technique when working out chord-melody moves.

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Jan 13th, 2015 03:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I do that *A* with just the middle and ring fingers. The ring finger manages both the G and B stings and it comes out clean and clear every time. Been doing it that way for as long as I can recall.

It's actually about what you are calling for except that once the ring and middle fingers hit the strings there is nothing left of the index finger to do.

I also caught on the the *G* (middle ring and pinky) fingering long ago and for the exact reason mentioned.

Anyway, I like these basic lessons. They get me paying better attention to how I am doing things.

Tyrone Shuz

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Jan 13th, 2015 04:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Blonde--the only reason for separate fingers is for folky-type stuff where you remove just one of the strings and put it back on.

I can actually do the rock'n'roll one-finger A chord AND get the open high E too! I practiced that a bunch. It's nice for one or two things, but mostly the one-finger "A" doesn't go all the way to the high E, and again, you can't do the folky thing but you can do some other add-ons.

You should have one fingering that's one finger per string in the bag for an "A" chord.

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Jan 13th, 2015 04:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I gotta say thanks to you, Tyrone, for getting the 'metronome thing' burned into my brain a few years back. It has made a huge, positive difference in how I play. I get comments about my timing and I always attribute it to you and your metronome philosophy. Thanks brother.

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Jan 13th, 2015 04:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, I agree there is some versatility that does not exist when done the way I have been doing it.

Doing it as you suggest will allow all three fingers to take a position where as the three in a row ... not so much, for my big mitts.

I'll start working that way. If I'm going to learn to play I can't build a handicap into my technique ;)

(This message was last edited by BlondeStrat at 07:02 PM, Jan 13th, 2015)

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Jan 13th, 2015 05:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The way Ty shows the A chord makes sense when you think of the index finger as being your 'anchor' for The Cowboy Chord Trifecta: E, A, and D.

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Jan 13th, 2015 05:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mr. Tyrone, bless you for the metronome info! It was beaten into me long ago on other instruments, and I am glad to see it on guitar. It's so easy to overlook, yet it makes a huge difference in ability. Kudos.



Tyrone Shuz

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Jan 13th, 2015 05:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Gettin' all choked up here, thanky'all very much!

Wait till y'all see part 2!

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Jan 13th, 2015 07:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tyrone - great work and there's stuff for the not so beginner to latch on to as well. Watching this, I can see where I have some weak habits I can make better by following your lead. Thanks for taking the time to show how simple changes can get the greatest results!

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