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Frus500

USA

Jan 9th, 2015 10:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

This is a 2000 Closet Classic. The seller says he "thinks" it's Dakota Red... but I thought Dakota Red is a darker red? I know it's hard to tell from internet pics, especially due to lighting, but I just thought I'd ask for opinions. There are 3 pics.

Thanks

Closet Classic Stratocaster

Peppy

Tucson

Jan 10th, 2015 07:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fiesta Red a mi ojos. Nice-looking neck. Guitar looks great overall, excellent care taken.

Frus500

USA

Jan 10th, 2015 07:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, yeah I was thinking the same thing. the guy didn't really seem to know much about electric guitars so he said he thought it was "Dakota Red."

I even asked him about the radius and he didn't know. I assume it's 7.25... I don't think the Custom Shop made the time machine 60's reissues with 9.5 boards in 2000/2001.

It's funny, he said he bought it in 2001, showed a picture of the receipt, brand new Closet Classic. And it sat in his basement, "never left the house", for all this time. A closet classic that has actually become a sort of closet classic.

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Jan 10th, 2015 08:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think it's Fiesta also. Nice looking/condition guitar.

Frus500

USA

Jan 10th, 2015 08:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What kind of pickups did they use in the Custom Shop reissues around this time? 2000/2001. The same as today I would assume.

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and so are the tunes
Jan 10th, 2015 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is a nice-looking Strat. I concur with my colleagues here: fiesta red. Does it have a three-way switch or a 5-way in it?

I have a CS 1960 Strat Relic from 2000 and it has 'CS 1960 Stratocaster' pickups (made specifically for that model) in it. They are fairly throaty-sounding units with plenty of mid quack in the 2 and 4 positions.

This.

Frus500

USA

Jan 10th, 2015 08:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Your strat relic looks great Peegoo, great color man.

It has a 5 way but comes with a 3 way switch as well.

Thanks for your opinions on the color. I even emailed Fender with the serial # but it takes a few days to hear back from them. My instincts also tell me it's Fiesta red, Dakota red is much darker.

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The band is awful

and so are the tunes
Jan 10th, 2015 08:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool. That tells me it's a "60s" Strat, because if I recall correctly, they were issued with the 5-way installed, and a 3-way was included with the case candy. The COA (certificate of authenticity) will confirm the model type.

The "1960" Strat was the other way 'round: it was issued with the 3-way installed, and a 5-way was in with the case candy.

Tyrone Shuz

USA

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Jan 10th, 2015 05:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There were many special runs made for certain stores like Wildwood, with 9.5 radius, and med/jumbo frets.

That's Fiesta Red or I'm a monkey's uncle!

Frus500

USA

Jan 12th, 2015 10:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well I heard back from Fender and it is indeed a Fiesta Red Time Machine Closet Classic. 7.25 radius.


Some interesting things I also learned is that the guitar has an "Early 60's C Shape" neck. I really don't know if that is suppose to signify that it's a thinner or fuller neck, as opposed to a "mid 60's shape."

Also, the nut width is 1.650 as opposed to the
1 5/8, which I thought was the standard on 60's.

But looks good. Thanks.


Tyrone Shuz

USA

I'm all in!
Jan 14th, 2015 05:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Early '60's is thinner, mid '59 to mid '62 or so.

Again, you can find thicker ones from those years but they're uncommon, just as you can find thinner ones from '63 to '65.

Frus500

USA

Jan 14th, 2015 09:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

OK thanks for the answers.

So I ended up buying the guitar and it's great. It has a wider neck than a relic I have, but then again that relic has a very narrow neck.

Yes the neck is thin, but wide... which I like. Unlike the mentioned relic which is thin but narrow (at the nut I mean).

The case is different than my 07 relic in that it's more fluffier inside, but it is one of those vintage Fender cases.

Only thing I'm not crazy about is the really white pickguard, I like a nice mint guard so I will install that instead. You would think a closet classic would have an aged pickguard, but it doesn't.

The neck is extremely flameey and beautiful. Were all Fender necks like this in the 60s?

Tyrone Shuz

USA

I'm all in!
Jan 14th, 2015 10:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

HELL NO!! Flame necks are very rare, but you can find 'em once in a blue moon.

As for the guard, once they went to 3-ply, they were green, which got greener over the years. The top white layer is slightly translucent so the next black layer gives it a slightly green tinge, and over time became greener. Pure white is incorrect. But the guard isn't celluloid, or it's a different formula than back in the day. Get a green guard!

Frus500

USA

Jan 15th, 2015 07:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yeah I will def put a mint green pickgurd. To me a really white pickguard always reminds me of this ultra cheap copy strat I once had, which had a very white cheap pickguard on it. I'm also very use to the green guard as other Fenders I have/had, were RI 60's strats with mint guards. It's just what I like.

Fender says the neck width is 1.650 as opposed to 1.625 I normally see, or have had on 60's type strats.


Frus500

USA

Jan 15th, 2015 01:03 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks

(This message was last edited by Frus500 at 10:55 PM, Jan 15th, 2015)

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