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Quackerjack
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Dec 26th, 2014 06:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Can't agree more. I have one in my HD28 and it sounds great without any preamp. Leaves any other system I've had in the dust, and is a lot cheaper too.

Ragtop
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Jan 5th, 2015 08:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've done 6 K&K installs so far, all without a hitch. That includes my priceless (to me) old Guild and a HD28V that I've since sold; both of those jobs were nerve-wracking, as there is not much room for error when working with Super-Glue.

jhawkr is right about the price increase. I buy mine from Shoreline Music in Durango. I think I paid $65 for the first one, but $91 for the last one.

Iversen

Denmark

Jul 29th, 2015 09:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, after years of reading how great the K&K is I finally went ahead and ordered a set today. I'm going to install it in my Martin 00015M.

I only have Rivera-era Fender amps and it seems like people never play acoustics into regular amps, they either get a dedicated amp or go into the PA. Why is this?


Vic Vega
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Jul 29th, 2015 10:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Electric Guitar amps are not voiced for them.

I find no negatives at all from going straight into the PA. I can't find a single reason to haul around an acoustic amplifier.

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Jul 29th, 2015 11:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes I have one installed in my d18. Great sound. I bring my boss ge7 along just in case but rarely use it.

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Jul 31st, 2015 09:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have the Pure Mini in my D35 and love it.

Iversen

Denmark

Aug 9th, 2015 01:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The operation was a succes, but the surgeon barely survived!

I installed them yesterday and they sound pretty much as good I was hoping for. However, I had a few issues along they way. Drilling and glueing went fine up until the third pickup. As I checked alignment using an iPhone in place of a mirror I could tell the third pickup was misplaced. For a few seconds I was not very happy with myself, but I managed to get it off as there was puddle mixed in with the super glue. I then scraped off any residue with a razor blade and then even more carefully glued it back on, counting to 30 while thinking "Here goes nothing" or the 100$… Perfectly aligned, but would the pickup work?

I eagerly put on a new set of strings only to find out that the low E had the brilliance of a 30 year old flatwound rusty bass string. But this was unplugged, how could the not so lucky pickup affect the string like that? As I plugged it in I was expecting the E and A to sound like crap, but the A sounded just as good as the higher strings.

I put on the old E string and it turned out the new E-string was the worst dud in my 30 years of guitar playing. In fact I've only had one dud before this one, but the timing made this dud especially annoying.

So there, the guitar sounds very full through the Super Champ and I'm looking forward to playing it into a PA soon.

I will order another set of K&K Pure Mini for my other Martin, just after I've returned this dud from hell...

(This message was last edited by Iversen at 03:36 AM, Aug 9th, 2015)

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Aug 9th, 2015 02:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You are lucky to have EM Shorts nearby - true quality dealer!

Ragtop
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Aug 9th, 2015 03:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I did a K&K install recently on a friend's old Alvarez-Yairi, and mislocated the middle transducer through sheer carelessness on my part. Instead of being between the D and G strings, it was between the A and D strings.

Figured the guitar was no good, at least as an acoustic-electric.

But I proceeded with the install, and plugged it into my Genz-Benz Shenandoah, and it sounded terrific! I told my buddy that one transducer was "a bit off-center," but he was so thrilled by the sound that he didn't care.

I also slopped super glue on the top, but thanks to advice received here on the FDP, I was able to clean that up.

I've done 7 K&K installs now, and this last one was the only one that gave me trouble. But all's well that ends well- my friend gave me a nice old Cobra lob wedge that I had been eyeballing for my efforts.

Jeffty

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Aug 9th, 2015 01:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had a Pure Mini installed into my '75 Guild D55 by a local luthier. This combination does require more EQ than previous pups, it's pretty bass-heavy (not unlike the guitar). Once some high end is added and a little high-pass is dialed-in down low on a preamp It's a lovely, quackless acoustic sound. However I don't find it useable without a preamp as K&K has suggested - too muddy without one.

BbendFender
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Aug 10th, 2015 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I use the K&K Pure Mini in all but 2 of my acoustics. I have a Fishman in one and my Takamine EF341-SC uses whatever Tak used.
The K&K is the best acoustic pup I have found.

Steve Dallman
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Aug 10th, 2015 10:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Most undersaddle piezo pickups require a very high impedance input preamp to produce full low end. This would be 4.7meg ohm at a minimum to 10 meg ohm optimum.

The lower the impedance, the more low end lost.

With a disc piezo, the impedance of the preamp is used to control the low end.

The K&K works best into 1meg ohm which most amps and their preamp has.

The high impedance in of most PA mixers and passive DI's are around 50k ohms. This is way too low for a piezo without a preamp and low volume and lack of low end will result.

A preamp is needed with a piezo for consistent results.

IF you plug a K&K into a piezo preamp with a 10meg ohm input designed for undersaddle piezos, there will be excessive low end. One could simply modify the preamp with a 1meg ohm resistor from hot to ground soldered to the input jack of that preamp to match it to the K&K...

...or use the K&K preamp. If you are a DIY person, make a preamp with 1meg ohm input impedance.

Iversen

Denmark

Aug 12th, 2015 08:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Steve Dallman, that was some very useful information right there. I was thinking I would need to some research into various preamps, but not need for that now. Cool.

6L6
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Aug 12th, 2015 10:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good info, Steve!

In my own case, I've been very happy with my K&K's plugged straight into one of my acoustic amps (as you would expect). For playing straight into PA, however, I can get by without a preamp, but sometimes do use my K&K pre amp.

The folks at K&K really deserve a salute for this design!

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Ragtop
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Sep 22nd, 2015 01:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been on the lookout for a Taylor 514C for a while. Dey's scare, without a pickup- almost all of them are designated 514CE, the E for electronics.

Have only seen three without, one being played on the link below. The second was for sale online about a year ago, and the third popped up on eBay recently, so I bought it. It should be here tomorrow.

I didn't want the Taylor pickup so I can install a K&K. Peegoo, that "no drilling necessary" bit of information was timely and very helpful.

Excalibur

jhawkr
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Sep 23rd, 2015 09:03 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Martin strap button hole on my 00028EC is large enough to accept the optional 1/8" jack without drilling and I considered it but decided I didn't want the weaker, damage/short prone 1/8" adapter or custom cord issues. I had it drilled to accept the standard 1/4" jack.

I've found my EC sounds really great plugged directly into either of my Vox AC15's. C1 or HW1X. Which is why I haven't bought an "acoustic" amp.

Ragtop
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Sep 23rd, 2015 11:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

jhawkr, allow me a brief thread hijack:

Do all 00028ECs have a gloss finish on the back of the neck?

jhawkr
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Sep 23rd, 2015 11:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As far as I know they do. I think they call it a "polished gloss". Mine has not been "sticky".

Ragtop
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The older the violin

the sweeter the music.
Sep 23rd, 2015 04:42 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, jhawkr. I need to find one and play it for a while.

BbendFender
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Nov 19th, 2015 06:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

K&K Pure Mini - I think I have it on 3 of my acoustics now. Best pickup I've ever used and very easy to install.

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