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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Jaguars & Jazzmasters / Can Jazzmaster or Jaguar go heavy-ish?

DanielK78

UK

Nov 28th, 2014 06:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi everyone

I believe i'm in the right place to get some good advice on the guitar that i'm looking at getting soon. Basically, I love the Jazzmaster and Jaguar body shapes, in particular the Jazzmaster, so have my eyes firmly set on one. However i'm not sure if it can do what i'd like and came on this forum to see if it helps me make my decision.

I want to play everything from clean post-rock stuff up to (and mainly) dirty heavy grunge type sounds (Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Weezer) and wondered if either of the guitars can cut it, and if so which model in particular (Classic Player is just in budget).

I've got a budget of around £800 and it's only really for use at home and some home recording. I've looked at the Squier Vintage Modified versions which look great and at an amazing price, but I figure that I may as well spend more as it's a lifelong investment.

Any advice would be really appreciated as I want to make sure I get it right.

Thanks so much in advance.


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Nov 28th, 2014 09:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Daniel,

Rumor is the first Weezer album was recorded with a Les Paul Junior and a Jaguar. I am currently using a Jag with a Weezer-style band and I'd be happy to send you a clip.

Fender makes a Jag with humbuckers. Cobain used a Jag modified with humbuckers quite a bit.

Finally, look into Troy Van Leeuwen from QOTSA and A Perfect Circle, Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo from Sonic Youth, and J Mascis from Dinosaur Jr. They all play Jazzmasters.

So, in short, it can be done even without humbuckers. If you go single coil the biggest issue you'll face is noise, which can be dealt with. Also, if you can find one in your budget, the Classic Player models have hotter single coils than the normal Jag or Jazzmaster. Similarly, the J Mascis Jazzmaster has pickups that are more like P90s than JM pickups.

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Nov 28th, 2014 10:30 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Go for the Classic Player HH and you won't be sorry.

The Enforcer humbuckers do the dirty, grungy thing very well and the roller coil taps can pretty much get you anything else. The single coil sounds are actually the best tapped HB'rs I've ever heard.

Yea, it'll go heavy-ish with no problem.

DanielK78

UK

Nov 28th, 2014 10:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks both of you. It's definitely helping to make my decision.

So you'd recommend possibly putting new pickups in instead of the stock ones?

A clip would be great Brent, thanks!

BrentD
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Nov 28th, 2014 11:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Daniel, can you email me? My email is linked from my username.

DanielK78

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Nov 28th, 2014 12:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Done!

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Nov 28th, 2014 01:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Can you say "Elvis Costello, Tom Verlaine with Television, Thurston Moore with Sonic Youth, and J. Mascis with Dinosaur Jr.?" ...among plenty of others.

Heck yes the Jazzmaster can go heavy. Get one; it's a super versatile guitar; it works great clean or dirty, soft or loud.

BrentD
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Nov 30th, 2014 12:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dan,

Sorry it took so long. You've got mail!

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Dec 1st, 2014 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yea, can definitely go there without issue.

I have both a CP HH and standard Jag in house, plus a Mascis JM.

Any of the above will do exactly what you want, without issue.

The CP HH will do it the easiest at the expense of the rhythm circuit (which the flexibility of the coil blend more than makes up for IMO), and keeps the strangle switch.

You could go more expensive, could go cheaper, but the CP HH *will* get you there.

I do mean, slag-like aggressive mean on mine - chained octave fuzzes, 15s+ grainy reverb, and much snarling.

It goes full-out beyond metal if I ask it to.

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Dec 1st, 2014 04:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a tear in my eye!

Ricey

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Mar 22nd, 2015 10:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I third the CP HH Jag! Those Enforcer pups are high output, but the roller knobs let you dial out one of the coils for true SC sounds. You can get full HB to SC sounds and everything in between. Definitely the best SC sound I have heard from a split coil HB.

BrentD
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May 1st, 2015 06:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Not to be spammy, but I just posted a tune from my band in Moe's. Aside from the solo (a double fat Strat), all of the guitars are a CP Jag with single coils. It's not "heavy" but it's "modern".

mr bungle

New Zealand

Jul 8th, 2015 02:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Check out Adam Franklin of Swervedriver. Rave Down is a heavy classic of their debut album. Lead guitar uses a Jazz, rhythm an LP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-540w4baJQ&list=RDa-540w4baJQ

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Jul 12th, 2015 02:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Saw this band the other week.

Hotel Wrecking City Traders

Yeah it was heavy-ish

Heavy enough ?

(This message was last edited by windmill at 04:00 AM, Jul 12th, 2015)

kbraker

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Jul 15th, 2015 07:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes they can...

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