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5Strats
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Nov 13th, 2014 04:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After watching a few demos of the Gretsch G5420T, I'm thinking of getting one sometime soon. I was not aware of this model's existence, until today.

I like the fact that the pickups are based on old Filtertrons. Hopefully, these imports play well too.

G5420T

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Nov 13th, 2014 06:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool !

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Nov 13th, 2014 06:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The new Electromatics are fine, fine guitars. You will be happy.

You will be even happier with a decent setup. All new guitars usually need a tweak or two in order for them to perform and sound as good as they possibly can. And guitars with Bigsbys need additional TLC to keep them playing smoothly and in tune.

One thing about the Gretches (Electromatics and even the hi-end models) with the rosewood or ebony footed bridge is the bridge tends to slip side to side on the body if the guitar is strummed aggressively. I always pin these bridges. Problem solved, and no loss of tone or sustain.

Like this.

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Nov 14th, 2014 07:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo - That sounds like a great solution to the common bridge issue, but I'd have a guitar tech do the work. Me drilling a guitar doesn't seem like a good idea.

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Nov 14th, 2014 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

5Strtats
Gona change yer name to maybe 5Strats and a Gretsch?

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Nov 14th, 2014 08:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I LOVE the 5420 I bought last year!
I was jonesing for a Gretsch single cut and test drove a 5120 as well as a 5420 at GC. Aside from trim and pups the two are essentially identical. My take was that the Blacktop Filtertrons in the 5420 sounded much more Gretcsh-y than the buckers in the 5120 - 5420 wouldn't need a pup transplant to achieve the ideal sound I heard in my head. I scored a killer deal on a MF closeout FSR in smoke green.

I've since added a stainless steel Compton bridge, sanded the bridge base to match curvature of the top, installed a TV Jones wiring harness, and used mouse pad foam to raise the pups above the limits of the OEM hardware. I bought a custom bone nut but haven't installed it yet because I successfully cleaned up the stock nut to the point that tuning is dead stable even with vigorous application of the Bigsby.

Tone and playability are superb! This thing sings, chimes, or rawks depending on how its played. All in all probably the best guitar I've ever owned. A great deal despite the minimally invasive mods I've done.

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Nov 14th, 2014 08:56 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Malcom - I actually own 7 Strats, 1 Tele, 2 PRS guitars, 1 Charvel, 1 Gibson, etc.

I owned 5 Strats when I joined the FDP years ago, thus the user name.

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Nov 14th, 2014 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

QUESTION - Would I really "need" to have work done on the bridge?

I doubt I'd use this guitar for live work, as I'm hooked on Strats.

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Nov 14th, 2014 01:18 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The OEM bridge is subject to vibration and rattles but replacement isn't absolutely necessary. Judicious application of nail polish may be enough to quiet down the stocker. My SS Compton was $70 well spent - it's a drop-on solid metal replacement for the Rube Goldberg collection of screws, springs, and pot metal.

Sanding the bridge base is a simple and very effective means of maximizing contact between the bridge and guitar top. The angles on the mass produced generic base don't necessarily match the curvature of your guitar top. Another tip I have learned from Gretsch forums is to use a little violin rosin to anchor the bridge. Mine stays put just fine without pinning or rosin.

These hollowbodies can also be subject to a weird harmonic resonance of the strings between the bridge and Bigsby. A really cheap fix for this condition is to slip three grommets between the three pairs of strings just downstream of the bridge.

I didn't mind investing in a few mods because I scored this brand new $875 guitar for $620 delivered to my door, but I can certainly understand your hesitance to buy an expensive project. As I said earlier, I'm lovin' mine!

Compton bridges

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Nov 14th, 2014 01:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The specs state that the G5420T has a Rosewood-Based Adjusto-Maticâ„¢ bridge.

Is this different from the OEM bridge?

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Nov 14th, 2014 03:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

5, if you're hesitant about the bridge, maybe the 5600 series Electromatics would be worth a look-see.

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Nov 14th, 2014 04:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Is this different from the OEM bridge?"
OEM is an automotive term: "original equipment manufacturer"

Adjuso-matic is known as the Rattle-o-matic in some circles. Lots of parts to vibrate and buzz. The Asian versions are of dubious quality but the Pro Line versions must be OK - Brian Setzer doesn't replace them. You could replace the Adjusto-Matic on a 5420 with a better quality unit from an aftermarket supplier but the Compton is elegant in its simplicity and performance. Truarc also makes one-piece bridges popular among Gretsch folks. I'm in the Compton camp.


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Nov 14th, 2014 10:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dave. Buy the Gretsch. They're a lot of fun to play. That looks like a cool guitar.

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Nov 15th, 2014 04:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Dave. Buy the Gretsch. They're a lot of fun to play. That looks like a cool guitar."


Great advice. They are really cool guitars!
Definitely a different flavor than any other.

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Nov 15th, 2014 04:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I really dig the aspen green model.

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Nov 15th, 2014 05:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The only downside to Gretsch is the full-size humbuckers they install into some of the the Electromatics. They are known as 'mudbuckers' for a reason.

Once in a while though, you'll find a Gretsch with those pickups in it that sounds great.

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Nov 15th, 2014 08:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

As I mentioned above, a big advantage of the 5420 over the 5120 is the Blacktop Filtertron pups instead of the really generic sounding Gretschbuckers (the muddy ones).

G5420T's rock!

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Nov 16th, 2014 08:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

adr2 - Thanks for the heads up on that model.

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Nov 20th, 2014 02:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I played a G5420T today in Gretsch orange and it was super cool. The Bigsby stayed in tune nicely and didn't have much play.

I just wish I could try it out with different guage and quality strings.

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Dec 23rd, 2014 08:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

capnhiho, I have a 5420 on the way. Why did you choose ss for the Compton Bridge and how did it change the tone from stock?
And why Compton over Truarc? Just curious & learning about stuff new to me.

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