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FDP Forum / The 'Pup' Tent / Texas Specials and Telecaster question

super mario
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tone to the bone no other way
Sep 26th, 2014 01:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love the Texas Specials in the Strat and figured to get the same love in the Tele. Installed a set in the 07 MIM Standard and am having trouble getting the tone and output I am looking for. (I have to admit I am looking for the bite I get from the SD Broadcaster that is in the 97 Peavey Reactor) One thing I have noticed is the output seems to be lower on these pickups - usually not something that is said of Texas Specials. What to do - I've tried raising/lowering, angling and still have not found the sweet spot I know is there. What am I missing?

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Sep 26th, 2014 02:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just purchased a newer American Special Tele on ebay and it came with Texas specials. I had every intention of replacing them with the Fralin Split Blade blues set before i got the guitar.

That being said, after the guitar arrived i plugged it in and immediately was disappointed with the sound of the pickups.
The sound was darker than i expected...and they didn't have that snap snarl and bite..
I'm not sure what Fender was trying to accomplish or what sort of sound they were looking for, but I didn't care for em.

its just possible that these pickups are not the sound you are looking for either..

however, after installing the Fralin's the tele came to life!.... I highly recommend them

super mario
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Sep 26th, 2014 03:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am thinking they are not what I was looking for. Gonna check out the Fralins and maybe SD's among others.

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Sep 26th, 2014 04:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I am thinking they are not what I was looking for"


unless of course there is something wrong with either the pups or the wiring....but i sort of doubt it..

The Fralin's are curved so as to match the radius of your neck.. the come in 3 different radius' black and creme/white, and vintage wound, blues wound and hot wound,,

i went with the blues wound....

they will do chikin pickin, but are more designed for blues/rock...

ive got 2 guitars set up with them....

Here's a picture

(This message was last edited by Guitar Fool at 06:15 PM, Sep 26th, 2014)

mrfix

canada

Sep 26th, 2014 06:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The pickups are probably OK.
The problem is the HUGE .05uf tone capacitor.
Disconnect the capacitor, or the entire tone pot and test the sound. I think you will be happy with the result.This large capacitor will cause the same problem with any pickup you try.
For a pemanant solution, use a no load pot and a .022uf capacitor.
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(This message was last edited by mrfix at 08:16 PM, Sep 26th, 2014)

super mario
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Sep 26th, 2014 08:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Had thought about the cap - can't recall if an .047 or .022. Whatever is stock on the MIM. Will check and report back - thx!

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Sep 27th, 2014 07:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently had a new (anomaly) Am Special T that I returned.

On the rear pup, the B string was very weak, with the high E in close 2nd. No matter how I adjusted it.
However the one I played in the store but was soon sold sounded very gd and balanced.

(The gtr I returned had another issue too)

(This message was last edited by Cal Webway at 12:53 PM, Sep 27th, 2014)

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Sep 27th, 2014 11:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Test those pickups with a meter and compare the results to factory spec. Although rare--sometimes mutants do escape.

super mario
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Sep 27th, 2014 01:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Disconnected the tone circuit and the pickups have the tone I am looking for. will double check the p'ups with the meter just see if they are within spec. Thinking though it may be the tone circuit - going to check the capacitor and the tone pot to make sure they are within spec too.

ConchoBill

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Sep 29th, 2014 08:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have them in my MIM Std Tele and to me, a Strat guy, they are the best Tele pups I have heard. They rock. I don't play much country, but I think they sound good for country too. That said, I think Tele pups are normally too bright, and that may be one of the reasons I like these pickups. They were designed by one of Fender's best pickup designers, can't remember his name. Used to be on here a lot. Merle Haggard seemed to like em.


super mario
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Oct 2nd, 2014 05:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Finally got the ohmmeter to the Tele. Neck pick-up was around 9.6k (versus the quoted Fender spec of 9.5)and the bridge is around 10.3 (versus the quoted spec of 10.5 from Fender). Also checked the tone pot 275k (against the design of 250k) - good there. Put in a new .022 resistor and the tone is where I like it. The only remaining issue is in the sharp taper of the volume - stays low until about 3/4 and then comes on strong fast. Don't know if I need to put a treble bleed circuit in to help even out the taper. Never have really gotten great results with such.

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Oct 10th, 2014 12:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I too liked Texas Specials in a Strat but when I put the Tele version in a Telecaster it was too mellow, no bite or twang.

super mario
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tone to the bone no other way
Oct 12th, 2014 01:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bubbalou - there is a lack of the bite for sure. Good thing is the offer a meatier tone as compared to the SD Broadcaster in the PV Reactor (which has the snap/snarl I love) - with the two I have a good mix. Learning where the sweet spot is in any combo is the secret to being "Happy, Happy, Happy" with a particular guitar combo.

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Bluz Cowboy
Oct 13th, 2014 12:21 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They are a bit hot, but mellow. That is probably why I like them. I am probably not the biggest fan of Tele "twang".


Slimlefttown

Canada

Jan 5th, 2015 05:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My CIJ Fender '52 RI Tele came with Texas Specials. Did nothing for the guitar or me what so ever. Now she's holding Lollar T52's and that is one sweet combo.

vegetablejoe

Manila

Feb 25th, 2015 08:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

same sentiments here as ConchoBill... and loving my Tele Texas Specials for rock and blues.

I also love more traditional tele tones not doable with these pups, but don't (know how to) play country anyway. And so therefore I usually back off the tone pot when using the bridge pup.

(This message was last edited by vegetablejoe at 10:51 PM, Feb 25th, 2015)

vegetablejoe

Manila

Feb 25th, 2015 08:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

whoops... sorry for the double post... dunno how that happened.

(This message was last edited by vegetablejoe at 10:51 PM, Feb 25th, 2015)

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