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ninworks

Arizona

Too Much GAS
Jun 24th, 2014 06:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm a metronome kinda guy. I used to sit down to play and never really get much better. A few years ago I took some lessons from a guy that has technique like you wouldn't believe. He taught me how to practice, basically. Precision in executing things in perfect time with the metronome is what I strive for. It has improved my sense of timing ten-fold. I pay very close attention to how well each note rings out.

I also started playing the exercises in different ways in order to be able to make things sound musical and not just mechanical. Sometimes staccatto, sometimes legato, crescendo, decrescendo, loud, soft, etc. Since I started doing this my playing has improved considerably.

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Western Pa.

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Jun 24th, 2014 08:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I mostly practice the songs I'll be playing next time in the church band.

I'll also practice some specific techniques, such as from a couple of Lincoln Brewster DVD's. (One thing I learned from them: some licks I will NEVER be able to play as fast as he does!)

Whenever I force myself to play with a metronome, it really helps! I just have to force myself to do it.

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Jun 25th, 2014 02:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Right now I'm all over the place as usual. I'm working on the way Duane Allman plays "Statesbourgh Blues" His intro on the slide sets the pace for the song and is deceptively hard to nail down. The notes are easy but the phrasings he uses are not.

"Sky King" by Danny Gatton is a work in progress, great tune. It's got a Western swing kind of feel to it and its not a typical song that I would try to tackle.

"Sweet little Angel" as done by B.B. King is a song I can do on the vocals and play some stripped down blues licks on, I like B.B. phrasing on this song and I'm trying to go with the "Less is more" approach. B.B. leaves holes in his solos and its a good thing to know how to do.

I just got done watching "Standing in the shadows of Motown" again and I'm going to try to find a good Motown song book for guitar and learn a few of my favorites.

I do some times actually practice my technique. Mainly my right hang picking because that's my weakest aspect of my playing, although my fretting hand could use some improvement for sure.



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Edmond/OKC

AXE VICTIM
Jun 25th, 2014 07:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't really practice, I just try to play on a daily basis. I mostly improvise in various styles.

Stratotron

USA

Jun 25th, 2014 07:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am like Joe Potts. I play at church almost every Sunday. I get the set list on Monday, and start working on anything that I don't know right away.This week we did a song that had an odd triplett finger picking acoustic intro part that the leader couldn't cover. I learned it and played it on a super clean tone (Cabronita chime). There is always at least on new thing or position a week.

When I get a break, I am working on right hand flat picking speed. I am a hybrid player, but would like to improve my flat picking. As it is I toggle between flat and hybrid picking.

During a hiatus last year, I got about 30 pages in to a great "learn to read for guitar" book. I REALLY need to get back to that. Just getting that far greatly increased my musical vocabulary. One bass player we had wasn't grabbing the groove, and I was able to quickly scratch a line of notes on his page, and he immediately got the feel.

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Jun 25th, 2014 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After 40 years I'm still practicing scales, arps and chord vocabulary. Occasionally I'll buy a book trying to stress specific rhythms or techniques and work through that.

Besides that I'm coping licks and learning songs, but I don't really consider that practice. That's the fun part because practicing makes that possible.

(This message was last edited by urby at 01:25 PM, Jun 25th, 2014)

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Edmond/OKC

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Jun 25th, 2014 11:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm playing at a church this Saturday and won't know what songs we're doing until just before the performance.

I play at this church twice a month and I just improvise my lead guitar parts and my solos.

sjerome
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Upstate NY, USA

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Jun 25th, 2014 04:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I will confess to breaking our the metronome from time to time, especially if I've heard a recording of myself subtly racing the beat, which is my most likely non-clam failure mode. I think I've crushed that into my skull fairly well, but then again, I haven't heard myself recorded recently.

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Jun 25th, 2014 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I usually noodle on something I've written or am writing.

reverendrob
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Howl like a wolf

And a witch will open the door
Jun 29th, 2014 11:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I usually sit down and just play. If I want to work on something specific, I do it, but usually it's just time with the instrument and I learn from that time.

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Jun 30th, 2014 03:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used to practice scales, but that got me thinking linearly and when playing a break, my fingers would go on autopilot. Took me a while to break the habit.

These days, I'm constantly learning new songs, and I work out the difficult passages at a very low BPM speed until I burn the patterns into my muscle memory. The idea is to play it so slowly I can't *possibly* mess it up. Once I achieve that, it's time to increase speed.

This also means I learn new things all the time by figuring out what the player did here or there. And I'm certain that oftentimes I'm doing something different to achieve the same notes on the original recording.

ninworks

Arizona

Too Much GAS
Jun 30th, 2014 06:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Starting slow and precise then increasing the speed is the key. Even doing it slowly and methodically doesn't always work the first time through the process. There have been a number of occasions where I did that, thinking that I had the movements and fingerings figured out, only to realize that after I got it up to a certain speed that something wasn't correct and I had to modify something and start over. Rather than spend years changing my picking technique I can often find ways to change the fingering to accommodate my picking. It often requires making large stretches or moving my hand up or down the fingerboard to make it work.

It's all good. I strive to economize my movements but, even after finding another way to play something, the original (incorrect) way can offer different dynamics, or emotional, impact that the *proper* way doesn't. For me, there's more to it than just getting the right notes under my fingers. However, depending upon what it is sometimes I'll settle for just getting the right notes.

ninworks

Arizona

Too Much GAS
Jun 30th, 2014 07:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used to spend all of my time practicing scales too. I still do that sometimes to loosen up. These days I spend more time playing modal intervals and arpeggios when I practice. That has done wonders for the musicality of what I play. Having said that, you must know your scales in order to effectively practice like that. So, the scale studies are paramount in understanding how to apply said intervals and arpeggios. If anyone would like a further explanation for how that is done I'll be happy to help. Email me.

catnineblue

LA , Calif

Lost on the blue ball
Sep 5th, 2014 10:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I never practice scales. Almost everything I play I learned by ear and for timing I sing the tune my head.

I know the notes and chords only because I picked them up here and there but I don't read music.

I have a few books that go through scales and theory and really tried but that just simply kills if for me.

I just run through a few songs of different types of music , Blues , Beatles , stones , rock , folk and so on then I find what feels best at that moment and bring up songs I learned long ago and see what I might do better or had missed before.

I tend to jump around a lot. I had one of those forget what you call them , like a 10 second record what you play and it was activated by sound and then it would play what I just played back so I could do sort of a call and response type thing and that helped a lot to get the feel of blues licks .

I like to use the entire neck so I'll play up the neck and down with the same notes of a lick same with chord's .

Since you tube came along I'll watch players to see what they do and pick up new things that way.

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Austin, Texas

Yeeeehaaaa!
Sep 8th, 2014 01:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm all over the map....never structured. I'll either jam to the stereo, or goof around on whatever pops up. I rarely work on any sort of scales, having found more joy in good ol' chords.

Greg

Highland CA

Close to Corona
Sep 8th, 2014 07:33 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Since I'm trying to play smooth jazz it's been all about phrasing.

Tyrone Shuz

USA

I'm all in!
Sep 25th, 2014 01:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lately, I have had a bunch of material to learn, so it's been that.

But I've recently broken out my old classical book, and also worked on some slide stuff (both techniques apply to the material I've been learning).

If not inundated with work, I'll usually work on improv over jazz changes. I'll often (should even be MORE often) force myself to work in areas of the neck I'm less familiar with relative to the key.

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Sep 25th, 2014 06:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I mostly work on arrangements of songs that I plan to play. I also try different voicings and positions. In addition I do a lot of fingering pattern exercises. Not a fast way to get to being a great guitarist but after 55 years I continue to get better.

Come concert season I spend about a half an hour a day going over the difficult parts and phrases in mt charts

HenryJ
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Nov 28th, 2014 07:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Beatle songs. Joe Walsh once said "Learn every Beatle song."

Achase4u

U.S. - Virginia

Dec 1st, 2014 08:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't practice or play anymore, really. When I did, I was practicing jazz scales and modes and their patterns. There is a great book, out of print but out there still called "Patterns for Jazz" by Jerry Coker and some other fellas.

I also like the "Melodic Rhythms for guitar" by William Leavitt for Berklee. Sal Salvador's books are still printed by Mel Bay. These are all recommendations from my teacher. I like them.

I also transposed and played through many types of blues changes for chord voicing work etc.

I miss practicing.

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