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Stratotron

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May 19th, 2014 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

How do Gretsch Pick ups in general compare noise wise?
Quiet like Humbuckers or noisy like single coil?

Am shopping a guitar for a lighting/noise situation (the place I play regularly has noise issues on the stage that aren't going to change any time soon) and considering an Electromatic Center Block.

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May 19th, 2014 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Depends on the pickup. Filtertrons are as quiet or quieter than metal-covered Gibson humbuckers.

Dynasonics (and DeArmond 2Ks) are single coils, but they're shielded coils so they're quieter than P90s and Strat pickups.

Remember that some venues have really "dirty" AC mains power and there's little you can do to get quiet operation from an amp/guitar combination.

Another option is an AC power conditioner.

What pickups are you considering?




Stratotron

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May 20th, 2014 08:52 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I am looking at the Electromatic Corvette w/t Dual Megatrons or the Electromatic Center Block w/t Hi Lo Tron Bridge and Blacktop Filtertron in neck.

My other guitars with dual coils are "acceptable" in this venue, none are totally quiet. I tried a couple of semi expensive power conditioners (basically a 100.00 ground lift) and line transformer things to no avail.

I have not tried a dedicated power conditioner however.

Not only that, but I owned an Electromatic Corvette in around 71, and feel like going back.I keep telling my wife that if this is as bad as my mid-senior-life crisis gets, it should be ok, eh? The only thing I don't like is the stock vintage tuners, and I don't know of an after market upgrade that will mount to the same screw holes. If someone could engineeer a set of tuners that could do that, they could probably sell a hundred thousand of them the first day!! I just can't put tuners on and leave the old screw holes exposed, it messes with my sense of order.

Thanks in advance Peegoo.

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May 20th, 2014 04:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a MIK G5420 with the OEM Blacktop Filtertrons. They are actually a little quieter than the SD Seth Lovers in my Ibanez AS-73 (335 clone). Both of the above are considerably quieter than any of my guitars with single coils.

AC in my guitar room is pretty noisy thanks to the doorbell transformer in the attic just outside the door.

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May 20th, 2014 07:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Stratotron, the Megatrons are basically a hot version of the Filtertron. This means if the Filtertron is noisy in that venue, the Megas will be noisier because they have more built-in gain. The HiLoTron is a cooler pickup (less gain), but it's also a single coil unit, which means it's not humbucking like the Filter and Mega. It will be noisier than those two.

capnhiho, make a small aluminum box (buy a short roll of 10" wide aluminum flashing at a Home Despot or Lowe's). You know origami? Simple. Make a crude little box and install that over the doorbell transformer. The aluminum dissipates the broadcast EMI from the transformer (if that's what you're experiencing). If the EMI is in the AC line, get yourself a power filter that blocks the line noise. Another option is to move the transformer to another branch--away from your music room.

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May 20th, 2014 08:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd move it or cover it but it's buried under drifts of fiberglass!

Stratotron

USA

May 21st, 2014 08:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Dang! Back to shopping. I wish I could demo one at the gig.

I am not big on large bodied hollows. Would like to find something small with Filtertrons.

Thanks again..

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May 21st, 2014 03:23 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Gretsch Japan still issues the Jet series. I have one...sort of a Les Paul but with a chambered body and a Bigsby. Nice chunky neck, a pair of Filtertrons, and quite versatile.

Stratotron

USA

May 21st, 2014 03:59 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Peegoo....Im' thinkin'...

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May 21st, 2014 04:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If it doesn't have to be a Gretsch, consider a Cabronita Tele, or even a Strat with two Filtertrons. Heck, TV Jones sells retrofit pickup rings that will allow you to drop Filtertrons into a Les Paul (or other humbucker guitar) without routing the body. They'll fit right in.

Stratotron

USA

May 21st, 2014 05:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ya know, I have been checking out the Surf Green Cabronita, and don't have a Tele right now. Saved up some Ducketts and sold my Wildkat, may need to drop the hammer on that one.

Was going to ask aboout that guitar, by the way.

Thanks

Stratotron

USA

May 22nd, 2014 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Soooo, it looks like Cabronita time, I know this is a Gretsch thread, but this should be the end.

2 things; most of the guitars in the price range that I was looking at have vintage tuners, not in love with them as a general rule. I got a look at the back of a Cabronita and viola, better tuners! That and GC has 50 bucks off 299 or more this week. Even with Fender excluded, they have always applied the discount in the past over the phone.

So my next post on this subject will/should be in the Telecaster thread, even though this guitar is about as un-Telly as a Telly could get.

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May 22nd, 2014 06:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorta like

THIS one? :o)

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May 22nd, 2014 06:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Or you could go totally

unStratisfactory too

Stratotron

USA

May 23rd, 2014 10:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The Surf Green...We must be brothas from anotha mutha...I was thinking about the torty pickguard mod. I get to see it !!

unStratifactory too is NICE!

I am buying off the rack this season..

Stratotron

USA

May 23rd, 2014 11:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Was checking out your Surf Green again and noticed the play on Chupacabra.....Nice touch! Surf Green with a little terrifying superstition!

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Oct 8th, 2014 05:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My filters do get hummy and noisy if I put too much gain on a clean channel. Turn down the gain and it goes silent again.

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