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Figaro

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Jan 20th, 2014 09:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fender is debuting the new 68 Custom Vibrolux Reverb amp at NAMM! Here's a video showing it with the other 68 Custom models. It's about time!

68 Custom Reverb amps

ruger9

USA/NJ

Jan 21st, 2014 04:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Damn. And I just recently got a Supersonic 22...

Well, I'll have to check this one out, as well as the "regular" CVR... none of these amps (including the Supersonics) are ever in any shops near me... just DRRIs, Pro Jrs, PRRIs, Mustangs....

Almost never a SS, CVR, VK, ....

Tele295

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Jan 21st, 2014 08:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That Vibrolux sounds pretty good!

reverend mikey

west Omaha, east NE

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Jan 22nd, 2014 08:55 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Rats ... another great sounding 2x10 amp (my favorite speaker set-up)...

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Jan 22nd, 2014 01:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Reduced negative feedback equals a noisy amp. How much trouble to put a presence control into one of these amps where the player has control over this issue.

Plus, I don't like Fender's choice of speakers.

I know, joykill, but I wouldn't buy one of these amps for those two reasons alone.

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Jan 22nd, 2014 02:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Whoa! Might be time for a new amp. But urby has a noisy point.

(This message was last edited by prolux at 04:05 PM, Jan 22nd, 2014)

carsten

on the rhine

Jan 22nd, 2014 02:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi!

It looks like it may be what many players craved for - and I wouldn´t rule it out before even hearing it...

cheers - C.

(This message was last edited by carsten at 04:57 PM, Jan 22nd, 2014)

prolux
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Jan 22nd, 2014 06:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh - Definitely not ruling it out. On the contrary.


carsten

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Jan 23rd, 2014 02:10 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi prolux!

I just thought that urby´s post sounded, mh, a bit like it ;)

cheers - C.

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Jan 23rd, 2014 06:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Doesn't the knock on the regular Vibrolux have something to do with the negative feedback? I like Celestion speakers.

SuperReverb2

Maple Ridge, BC

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Jan 23rd, 2014 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

CERTAINLY going to try this one out!

:)

carsten

on the rhine

Jan 23rd, 2014 09:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hi jhawkr!

Yes, the "Custom" VR hisses very much like a beehive - and it´s said to be because of the lack of a negative feedback loop - not sure if that´s true...

The new VR is said to have REDUCED negative feedback, so it will probably be different from the "Custom" VR...

cheers - C.

(This message was last edited by carsten at 07:01 PM, Jan 23rd, 2014)

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Jan 23rd, 2014 10:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd still try it out if interested in a new amp but I'd keep my ear open for unwanted noise.

You know how it is when you go to the music store with the pre-ordained thought of buying a specific item and there are a ton of distractions in there. 8v) Listen.

Still don't like the speakers.

Plus, a real silverface Fender is hand-wired and won't cost too much more, if any. And, they are real good amps.


Hammond101
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Jan 23rd, 2014 01:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Reduced negative feedback equals a noisy amp. How much trouble to put a presence control into one of these amps where the player has control over this issue."

The negative feedback loop cleans up the amp and really has nothing to do with noise. Reducing the amount of neg. feedback will make the amp break up sooner, at least in theory.

A presence control is more of a variable bright switch IMO. It would have nothing to due with noise.

I'm glad to see this amp come to reality. If the BF circuit was followed closely enough this amp might be worth owning. I bought and sold 2 CVRs.
I guess If I didn't like it I could gut the chassis and put in a eyelet board. My favorite Fender cosmetics!


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Jan 23rd, 2014 02:07 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I used a 73 Bandmaster Reverb chassis and put it in a 210 cabinet. I call it a MasterLux Reverb.

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Jan 23rd, 2014 04:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey Carsten, what I meant to say is I agree with urby that it could be noisy. As you & jhawkr note, that is the issue with CVR's. My hope is the reduced negative feedback will not result in the same hiss.

SKI indicated in his thread a couple days ago that his custom deluxe doesn't hiss.

My Goblin is the only thing that has kept me from considering the custom Princeton. The Vibro is another level.

(This message was last edited by prolux at 06:59 PM, Jan 23rd, 2014)

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Jan 25th, 2014 12:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like that Fender has come out with these SF models, and I'm sure we can discuss the pros and cons for a long time! ('cause that's what we do, right?)

I'm fortunate to have two Vibrolux Reverbs; a lovely 1966 with Jensens and a 1970 that I've gigged with for almost 10 years now.

If I didn't already have these amps I'd be seriously interested in this '68 model.

ruger9

USA/NJ

Jan 25th, 2014 01:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The way I'm seeing it, the new "68" won't be any closer to the original Vibrolux than the CVR was. Not that that's a bad thing... the CVR is a great amp in it's own right (one of Fender's most consistent sellers), but not to be compared to the original VL... as the new "68" no doubt shouldn't be.

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Jan 26th, 2014 04:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A presence control decouples the negative feedback in the high frequencies. If disconnecting or reducing NFB causes hiss, then turning up a presence control will do the same.

SpiroGiro

Southern CountiesUK

Jan 28th, 2014 04:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

..when I think of the difference between a Deluxe Reverb and a Vibrolux I get this mental analagy - DR= sraight six whereas Vibrolux=V8

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