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reverend mikey
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Dec 4th, 2013 08:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

...in all my excitement over the Larrivee order, I forgot that I had ordered a "Bohemian Oil Can Guitar" last week - yes, a lefty!

It will arrive tomorrow - will be interesting to take it for a spin.

They have several different models and graphics at their website (www.bohemianguitars.com).

This is the one I ordered - mirror image

LeftRightOut
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Dec 5th, 2013 03:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

seriously cool

way go Mikey this year with guitar acquisitions

how many has it been 4 or 5

reverend mikey
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Dec 5th, 2013 08:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, since the D'Angelico went back, I think it's three (THIS year - the Lancaster will arrive next year): a Recording King 000, the Larrivee C-10 and this Bohemian Guitar.

I think my Princeton Reverb RI was also early this year, and Baggs Venue DI pedal and some acoutic guitar pickups...

...but, both of our cars are paid off, and we don't have any credit card debt... my biggest expense is my home and kids' (three of the four) college loan payments (I pay some; they pay some).

reverend mikey
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Dec 5th, 2013 02:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, sadly, this guitar is going back. That's too bad, because it has a cool raw sound and vibe. But...

1) It won't stay in tune. Cheapest tuners I've ever had on ANY guitar. They slip and feel like mush. Also, I'm not sure the frets are in the right locations - very out of tune, even on the first few frets (when you can get it in tune for a few seconds). I even moved the bridge a little, and angled it, checked intonation at the 12 fret with harmonics, got it pretty close, but it's not good, even when playing cowboy chords.

2) It's a cheap lefty conversion: they basically recut the slots in a righty nut (the high E string is wide enough to drop a low E in there), and the side dots are on the wrong side of the neck.

3) The Volume and Tone knobs were pressed on the pots crooked - got them sort of straightened out...

4) The strings don't go through any kind of tailpiece - they just go through the rolled edge of the bottom of the *can*. If I was going to keep this thing, I'd find a way to put a jazz style tailpiece on it to secure the strings - I think this is part of the reason it won't stay in tune. Very cheesy - and cheap.

5) The back of the can bends in and out against your body while you play. Just doesn't feel very solid or stable.

The good - as I said, it sounds pretty cool. So it has inspired me to try to build my own! If I do, I'll order a neck-through parts neck from Carvin (which can be ordered lefty, and with options like mahogany, walnut, etc., and my choice of all their headstocks, or a paddleboard to design my own).

That neck will cost about what this whole guitar cost, but I have the rest of the stuff I need (bridges, tuners, pickups, etc.) to put it together. I would probably do some kind of cigar box thing...that would take a little research and snooping around antique shops or wherever... The 'strat' pickup on here sounds pretty good, but I could also see using a P-90, or tele bridge pup...

Anyway, I sent a return request through Amazon, so it will go back soon...

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Dec 5th, 2013 05:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That sucks

it looked cool and got me thinking

reverend mikey
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Dec 5th, 2013 09:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The story ends well - I'll share "the rest of the story" tomorrow - too late tonight.



reverend mikey
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Dec 6th, 2013 08:49 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I will say they (Bohemian Guitars) have been very good about the return - makes me feel better about doing business with them (although it doesn't completely make up for the deficiencies in their product - it definitely needs some work, at least for lefties - but probably righties, too).

Here's the e-mail exchange I had with them (which started with my return request through Amazon):

Me:
Item: Bohemian Guitar - Moonshine - Chrome Tuning Machines (left handed)
Qty: 1
Return reason: Defective/Does not work properly
Buyer comments: Won't stay in tune; cheap conversion to left-handed (side dots on wrong side of neck); lower quality than expected - this is unfortunate: it sounds good, but can't be played without going out of tune.

From Andy at Bohemian Guitars:
Hi Michael,

I sincerely apologize for this inconvenience and your disappointment. It is not our intention to produce and ship inferior quality product.

I would like the opportunity to make it up to you by offering you a one-of-a-kind custom built guitar using a vintage oil can.

I value your honesty and would like to regain your trust in our brand and show quality of product we can produce.

Please let me know how you would like to proceed. We'd like to get started on your custom guitar so you can have it by Christmas.

Best, Adam

Me:
Adam,

Thank you for your quick response.

I would rather just return the guitar at this point. I should not have received an "inferior quality product" (your words) to begin with.While it was an inexpensive instrument, I was hoping for something a bit better. I thank you for the offer, though.

Best Regards, Mike McInnis

Adam:
Michael,

I couldn't agree more and I appreciate the feedback. You should be receiving a refund confirmation shortly.

When you are in the business for a new guitar and please use promo/coupon code "XXXX" to receive a 35% of discount on your next order. I trust that this is not common for us and I hope to you revisit our our site in the future.

Again, I apologize.

Adam

Me:
Thank you for your generous offer - I'll keep that in mind.

Mike

Also, they have already credited the money back to my bank account, even though I haven't shipped the guitar back yet. That's pretty good service, which I appreciate.

So overall, a good experience, I'm just sorry that the product was so cheaply made.


Just wanted you all to know the rest of the story - they don't deserve a totally bad rap - they just need to work a bit on quality control. I know it's hard to hit a price point, but sometimes it doesn't pay to cut corners on things that really matter, like tuners on a guitar; they're too critical to product usability.

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