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professor
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Oct 28th, 2013 07:37 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

..at MF. If I hadn't gotten one a few months ago, I'd get this. $307 after the

12% discount

Rob Jai

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Oct 28th, 2013 11:15 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So, other than the bridge humbucker and the black pickguard, what makes the Blacktop different than a regular Jazzmaster?

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Oct 28th, 2013 12:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Made in Mexico?

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Oct 31st, 2013 04:31 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's missing the rhythm circuit (which may or may not be a dealbreaker for you), a trem lock (same, but easily replaceable with a AVRI trem unit), and the bridge (TOM versus standard Jag/JM).

No single killer for me in any of it, the bridge being the least objectionable change, the trem lock being a virtual non-issue as I have ones with or without them, is the lack of a rhythm circuit - which won't be a cheap fix - new pickguard, added electronics for the circuit, and rewiring.

I use it semi-regularly on my offsets and it's part of what makes the guitars.

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Oct 31st, 2013 03:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm not seeing the 12% discount?

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Oct 31st, 2013 04:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

They had one all weekend.

Just call and ask.

They'll come close or do better in my experience.

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Nov 2nd, 2013 06:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Got a 'burst this week; $307 OTD; nice.

Haven't had much of a chance to really put it through its paces, as I had to travel out of town.

Out of the box, it looked and felt great.

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Nov 2nd, 2013 04:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sweet deal. Mine looks great, sounds great, stays in tune, no bridge issues- though I did the locktite thing to the saddle adjustment screws.the humbucker is pretty powerful, but rolling down the volume tames it if needed.

(This message was last edited by professor at 06:03 PM, Nov 2nd, 2013)

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Nov 4th, 2013 01:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I like the rhythm circuit -- part of what makes it a Jazzmaster.

My Squier VM Jazzmaster is pretty cool.

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Nov 4th, 2013 06:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What exactly does the rhythm circuit do?

Rob Jai

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Nov 4th, 2013 11:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What the rhythm circuit does probably would be answered differently by individual players, but to ME, the answer would be "nothing very useful".

I have owned an AVRI Jazzmaster and currently own a Jaguar and other than flipping the switch to see what it sounds like, I have never used the rhythm circuit on either. It always sounds a bit muddy to me and I've never found the tone pleasant enough to use.

But, that's just me. YMMV

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Nov 4th, 2013 12:29 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"It always sounds a bit muddy to me and I've never found the tone pleasant enough to use."

Part of the problem is the pots in the rhythm circuit are different than the lead circuit, so you do lose high end when you switch to it - which, I believe, was done by design.

I never liked it much, either.

So, I re-wired mine. Now, my rhythm "circuit" bypasses the vol/tone controls and routes the neck pickup straight to the output jack. Essentially, a straight wire out.
It not only is no longer muddy, but is like a built in boost.

reverendrob
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Nov 4th, 2013 01:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's what puts the "jazz" in the Jazzmaster IMO; there's a low, growly ugly that is a once in a while thing for me but I'd be very angry if it wasn't there.

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Nov 4th, 2013 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think Fender tried to emulate a hollow jazz box with that circuit. I don't use it much but would not mod it either.

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Nov 9th, 2013 04:05 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The rhythm circuit is the neck pickup alone with seperate vol and tone control.

It enables a switch to a preset tone without having to alter the knobs.

It adds a variety that is as useful as you want to make of it.

The more I play my jag the more use I am making of it. :)

tepperson

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Jan 4th, 2014 09:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

After a neck shim and new Graph Tech saddles, it plays wells, has sustain AND still janglifies like a JM ...

Oh, and I wrapped some 'lectrical tape 'round the bridge posts; never do I use the trem ...

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Jan 4th, 2014 09:38 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

$299 for burst ones in the latest MF catalog.

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Jan 5th, 2014 12:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Man that's a super deal.

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