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vomer
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Somerset, UK

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Sep 21st, 2013 04:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's back, but this time in the Vintage Modified range, in CAR, sunburst, and blonde; no butterscotch though; Fender, how could you?

I sold my old '51 as I couldn't get on with the quality, but this is very tempting.

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(This message was last edited by vomer at 06:09 PM, Sep 26th, 2013)

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Sep 21st, 2013 05:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Should be a bit better quality.

I'm still kicking myself for letting one of the originals pass me by at $80.

Acidhouse

Birmingham

Nov 12th, 2013 10:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm with you Vomer. I thought it was a neat concept but that the quality wasn't really all that great. Mine was a BSB that spent more time in a case and only came out a couple of times a year. Finally sold it and moved on.

I think a VM would be intriguing but I don't see myself going that route again. When the '51s were originally out, there really wasn't much in the way of Squier selection. Now there are so many ones I want that a '51 would be too far down the list.

Stratokatsu

Miami, Florida

Dec 22nd, 2013 07:24 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I sold both 51s I had. I always liked them, but didn't think they competed with my Strats and Teles. Now I've bought one of the blond 51s from the new line. I had a gift certificate to use up and figured it was the best way to use it up.

With the holidays in the way, I doubt I'll see it until after New Years. One way or the other, I'll be happy to have one back in the house.

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Dec 23rd, 2013 02:31 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tracking says it will arrive this Friday. It's going to be a good weekend.

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Dec 24th, 2013 09:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Cool! Let us know how she plays.

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Dec 25th, 2013 07:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I guess extra deliveries for the holidays have sped up the process. Now the tracking says it will arrive Thursday. I'm getting excited about this.

Honestly, I hardly play electric guitar anymore. I have some nice electrics, (Taylor T5), some decent electrics, (MIM Fat Strat and Epi Wildkat), and some cheap electrics, (SX and Monoprice Strats & Teles). They are all more likely going to be sold off, keeping only the 51 and an inexpensive Noah James 335 thing that is just incredible.

For the little bit of recording I do or the once a year time I might play electric with friends instead of just by myself at home, those 2 should be enough.

And best wishes for a very merry Christmas to all...

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Dec 27th, 2013 11:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It arrived this morning. Sweetwater packs things so incredibly tight I was totally frustrated trying to get it out of the box! ;-)

First impressions...

It looks good, but the so called blond, which I guess I expected to be sort of transparent or translucent is just white paint. Under the circumstances, I sort of wish I'd gotten sunburst, but no real big deal. The color reminds me of an aged Oly White like an old JV Strat I once had.

All the screws were tight. Usually I find the neck or the bridge needs tightening.

Setup is reasonable. I can make it better, but it's playable straight out of the box. The neck set looks good. I think 99% of whatever I do will be a matter of working with the bridge. Maybe I'll change the saddles in the process. I have some Graphtech saddles and some MIA bent steel saddles. I don't know which might sound best to me, but it only costs set of strings to mess with it and find out.

Tome... Both pickups were set so close to the strings that everything sounded muddy. The humbucker was about 3 times as loud as the neck pickup. I lowered the humbucker about even with the escutcheon with the treble side slightly higher. The neck I only slightly lowered, but again with the treble slightly higher. Everything is now in balance now. I get 4 very different tones and I like all of them. I might consider drilling the control plate and putting in a 3 way mini toggle switch, then convert the current switch to a tone control.

The neck profile seems a bit smaller than I remember it. I have huge hands and stuff like that stands out. Maybe I'll stick a Mighty Mite neck on it one of these days, something with a V profile and wider nut width.

Fretwork seems good, very good in fact when you consider the price of the guitar. There's no fret sprout I can feel and playing up the neck doesn't immediately reveal any high spots. I'll polish the frets with jeweler's rouge anyway just because it's my habit, but string bending isn't hard. I know it can be easier, but if I had to work with this guitar right now, I'd be OK. The fact the frets are so good tends to make me consider whether the neck change should be something to rush into.

It came with Fender's favorite 9-42 strings, something I dislike with a passion. I'll stick 10-46s on it sometime next week.

For the little time I've had to play it so far, the tuners seem to hold pretty well. I tightened the button screws slightly so they all have the same feel. Some arrived very tight and some very slack.

I guess the end result is, like almost all of which we've read about the model 51 over the years is, it's a good guitar straight out of the box that just begs to be modified into whatever floats your individual boat.

For $179 with free shipping, I certainly can't find anything to complain about that can't be fixed myself in just a few minutes.

Go get one!

(This message was last edited by Stratokatsu at 01:37 PM, Dec 27th, 2013)

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Dec 27th, 2013 05:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

By the way, the pickguard had to come off to get to the neck pickup. When I change strings, I'll drill it so the pickup adjustment screws can be mounted on top.

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Dec 27th, 2013 06:02 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I tried to add some pics to my profile, but even though it says they were uploaded, nothing shows up.

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Dec 28th, 2013 09:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Talking to Peegoo and others in the guitar modification section here, I understand I can use my nice Mighty Mite maple V profile neck in the Squier 51. It fits nicely though it's a strat heel in a Tele pocket, but they said the intonation wouldn't be affected. I'm going to change it in the morning.

Playing this thing some more today, I'm not sure I still like the pickups as much as I did initially, The both sound is good, the neck is good, but I think I'm looking for something different from the bridge pickup. I have some 4 wire humbuckers here I might try, pickups with lower ohms ratings that might strum more nicely for my musical tastes.

I'll fit the neck in tomorrow, fit some tuners to it, mess with the bridge pickup and decide whether I want to install a tone control and mini toggle switch.

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Jan 9th, 2014 01:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'll post a picture later, but so far, I've changed the neck to the maple Mighty Mite neck now that the tuners have come. I changed the bridge pickup for a GFS Dream 180, just spliced in without changing the pots. I still haven't done the tone control mod, but I will sometime down the road.

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Jan 22nd, 2014 11:32 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I finally got the picture to upload. As I said in the mod section, this guitar comes to hand so much more than some others I now think I'm going to sell them.

vomer
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Somerset, UK

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Jan 26th, 2014 05:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Glad to hear you like it.

It takes me back a bit seeing this- buy a '51 and mod it immediately :)

Stratokatsu
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Miami, Florida

Sep 14th, 2014 08:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's about 10 months later and I still reach for my 51 regardless of everything else here. I did put on the Mighty Mite Strat neck and used the 51 neck on a home built Tele I absolutely love. I like the look of the Strat neck on the 51 anyway. That's just the old fashioned dummy that is me.

I put the bent steel saddles on it along with some 11-48 strings. It sounds really good to me now, mostly played through my Pro Junior or a little Marshall I have. I have a Vox amp that is mostly slightly distorted sounds. For some reason, the 51 sounds better clean.

One way or the other, it's lived longer in my collection than many guitars...

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