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Rob Jai

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"Jai" pronounced "J"
Sep 9th, 2013 11:31 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I just got a CP Jag and have very little playing time with it. The tones I can get out of it are incredible - or I should say, they WERE incredible until all of a sudden the D string went dead. It is seated in the saddle as it should be, but it is damped as if something was laying across it.

This is the tun-o-matic bridge that is a supposed improvement over the old style bridge.

What would account for it playing fine one minute and then going wonky on me? I can't visually see anything that doesn't look right.

reverendrob
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Sep 10th, 2013 01:57 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Never seen something like what you've described -have you looked under the string for grooves, problems, etc?

Or changed strings or made sure tension is right, etc?

Strings don't generally mute themselves.

Rob Jai

Calif Cap City

"Jai" pronounced "J"
Sep 10th, 2013 02:55 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
Hey Rev, I think you're on to something when you suggested checking tension.

Since first posting, I have been doing some additional trouble shooting.

I noticed that the bridge was flat against the body making the action extremely low. I raised the bridge about a sixteenth of an inch or so, and it seemed to have brought the dead string back to life.

What's odd is that it was first playing just fine and then after an hour or so, the dead string syndrome started.

I've also noticed that the intonation screws are VERY loose. You can actually get a couple of them to turn with the tip of your finger - no screwdriver needed. Does that seem normal? Is this a case where it becomes necessary to put some locktite on them?

I will be changing strings in the next day or two. The guitar came to me with 9 gauge strings on it and I'll change to 11s. I'm thinking that will go a long ways toward curing the problem - that and raising the bridge a little more if needed to give me more tension on the strings.

Other than this pesky problem, this is a GREAT guitar!

reverendrob
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Sep 11th, 2013 03:43 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I'd locktite if it persists with new strings.

Chances are something fretted out on that string somewhere (on other hardware, perhaps).

Rob Jai

Calif Cap City

"Jai" pronounced "J"
Sep 11th, 2013 05:55 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I've since read elsewhere that it is common for this type of bridge to "fall". The,threaded posts that adjust bridge height move up and down far too easily.

I think what was happening was that just in strumming chords the bridge slowly worked it's way downward until it ended up being flush against the body.

To solve that problem, I figured out what height I need the bridge to be for the action that I want, and then put some white mylar bushings (washers) on the bottom side of the adjusting wheels so that they can not spin lower than where I want them to be. I think this will do the trick.
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older,better
Sep 14th, 2013 05:08 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
nice looking guitar

Rob Jai

Calif Cap City

"Jai" pronounced "J"
Sep 29th, 2013 03:46 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
So, after playing my new Jag for a couple of gigs, I'm finding that it's not holding tune very well. I'm reasonably familiar with how to set up a guitar but I'm open to any tips on what I might be able to do to make my tuning more stable.

It seems like after every two to three songs I have to tune. I DO use the trem bar, but no serious dive bombing or anything. You can't really dive bomb a Jag or JM trem anyway.

I have lubed the string tree, and the nut slots - anything else I should check? I have 11 gauge strings on it.

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Sep 29th, 2013 05:31 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search Topic
I'd check to see if the nut is correct and the setup is correct for 11s.

Could be some binding or other issues.

Mine was and is rock solid out of the box.

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