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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Jaguars & Jazzmasters / What are the differences between Jazzmasters?

Bigfoot
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Jul 8th, 2013 08:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

I would like to get a JM that is largely built to original specs. But I understand that there are some issues (or some might say features that make a JM special) that were addressed with the Classic Player, like the 9.5" radius neck. The pups are hotter but I am not sure that is something I would prefer. I recently played a CP and liked it very much. But there is no other JM's around to contrast it to. My preference would be to go with the original single coils to at least be close to the initial design, including the rhythm circuit.

I was hoping to get a MIA reissue, but the 62 and 65 seem to be made to the fully original specs. I played a CP and very much liked everything about it. But I would prefer a MIA if there is a model that is a great player too.

MLC
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Jul 9th, 2013 07:05 AM   Edit   Profile  

If you can find one of the Thinskin Jazzmasters that were part of a limited run a few years ago, that might be just what you're looking for - MIA and vintage specs except for the 9.5" radius fretboard.
Mine is one of my all-time favorite guitars.

One of the major non-vintage aspects of the CP's, aside from the hotter pickups, is the bridge/trem design. The TOM-style bridge is a major departure - and some might say an improvement over the sometimes temperamental original JM bridge. They also moved the trem closer to the bridge, which gives the whole thing a little different feel from the originals.

If you really like the feel of the CP, you could always replace the pickups with something more vintage flavored, if you prefer those.

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Jul 9th, 2013 09:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

I have standard and modern (moved trem, TOM) versions of the Jaguar, Mustang (bridge same spot but TOM), and Jazzmaster available to play with.

I'd rather have the TOM, and changed trem position seems to make no engative difference -
you can still do the stupid tricks that the instruments do (harpesque picking behind the bridge works on all three, etc)

Tuning stability on the change, though is a big, big improvement - I don't think I'd be as happy with a Jaguar as a synth guitar controller if it had a stock setup. It survives stupid histrionics and is stable for a week or more at a time over the course of several hours of play.

Doing the same on my regular Jaguar, as much as I love the thing, would result in retuning every so often and I couldn't hit it as hard or as meanly.

Feel and soundwise, it's a case of 'what radius do you want' more than anything - the trem sounds like that trem even with a TOM installed.

Bigfoot
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Jul 9th, 2013 09:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

I do prefer a more modern radius, and the steeper angle on the bridge (and a stable bridge) seem to be very important. Looks like only the CP addresses all of these issues. I ended up putting all of the models I can find in a spreadsheet to try to figure it all out. I am not interested in penny pinching since I have worked my tail off for enough years that I should treat myself to some fun geetar purchases. Will be retiring in a few months so its time to spend some money. Not that I should waste it.

The ones that are ranking high (mostly due to radius) are: 62 Custom Shop, Classic Player (MIM), Thinskin as MLC points out (but none for sale???), Blacktop (MIM)and Select Carved top (but no rhythm circuit).

Quite a variety and price spread. How else does a Thin Skin stack up, eg: pups, bridge, rhythm circuit, etc?

MLC
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Jul 11th, 2013 09:45 AM   Edit   Profile  

"How else does a Thin Skin stack up, eg: pups, bridge, rhythm circuit, etc?"

Well, like I said, I love mine.
I did replace the bridge with a Mastery and I have absolutely no issues with tuning stability. I don't baby it when I play and I use the trem quite a bit.
I have no reference point for the pickups as far as accuracy to vintage sounds, but I do know that I like what I hear - a LOT. Bright, clear, well-defined tones and they sound great clean or with OD/Distortion added to the mix.

I modded the rhythm circuit to be a straight pass-through from the neck pickup to the output jack. Since I play a lot with the volume backed off (on the lead circuit), it's like having an instant solo boost. Works well for me, as I didn't have much use for the stock rhythm circuit.

Playability is outstanding on this guitar, too. But I've got everything from 7.25" to a compound 10-16" and they all feel good to me once they're set up.

I am glad I got mine when I did (a few years ago), as they are getting pretty tough to find. I got the White Blonde Ash and I think it was the last new one available when I got it. The bonus at the time was that they were actually cheaper than the American Vintage models.

Bigfoot
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Jul 12th, 2013 07:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

MLC, as you say they are just not out there for sale. The thin skin sounds like the ticket for me. Clever idea with bypassing the tone circuits with the rhythm circuit switch. Neck pups are mighty fine for solos.

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