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FDP Forum / Guild/DeArmond/Tacoma Guitars / Sorry for the delay in posting, but 56 Guild Aristocrat is in the house.

Mr. Sanchez

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Dec 13th, 2012 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Since early fall; just never got around to posting the good news. Got a nice price on a cosmetically clean 56. Volume pots are scratchy, and the tone pots seem like placebos....i.e., no response whatsoever when you play with 'em.

I'm not in love with the somewhat muted tone you get from these old soapbars, but am not sure what path to take on changing that. I realize my options could range from altering my signal chain (i.e., pedals) to having the existing pups re-wound to replacing them with something that would fit in the current routs (and keeping the originals, of course). (and it's been suggested to me that a lot could be fixed just by dealing with aforementioned pots)

Suggestions?

Edited to say I love how lightweight these guitars are.

(This message was last edited by Mr. Sanchez at 05:46 PM, Dec 13th, 2012)

Frank Hudson

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Dec 14th, 2012 07:01 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I loved the weight of one I played in a store years back too. First thing to try would be pedals. That's quick, easy and non-invasive. A boost/overdrive with tone control perhaps?

And I'm a hack, but when an amp or guitar isn't getting the cut and brightness I want, I often slap in a Wah pedal on, and toe down as a trebble boost even if I don't want to do the wakka-wakka noises. A graphic EQ pedal might do the same thing, but I don't have one.

Sometimes that sort of thing responds to just adjusting your amp away from the settings that you like for other guitars.

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Dec 14th, 2012 10:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I owned and gigged with a '56 Aristocrat for almost 20 years. Wish I'd never sold it, but I got an offer I couldn't refuse and...

The muted tone you describe is a total mystery to me. Mine had wonderful tone and several others like it I've played were the same. I'm wondering if there's a problem in the pup windings or if those pots are causing the muting?

Your guitar should deliver fabulous, sparkling tone if it's working correctly.

Prices on these instruments have soared in recent years, and rightfully so. Like I said, sure wish I hadn't sold mine.

I'd take your guitar to a good techie and have him/her look it over.

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Mr. Sanchez

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Dec 14th, 2012 05:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

6, that's good feedback, and much appreciated. When I described the issues to a local tech (who said he'd have bench space after the holidays), he thought the pots would be the first (and easiest) place to look.

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Jul 28th, 2013 11:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What was the issue with the tone?

I'm guessing one of the tone pots worked loose, twisted around, and the metal shield braid on the lead was grounding to the capacitor's solder tab.

That is one very common cause of this symptom.

These are fantastic guitars.

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Jul 31st, 2013 08:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

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(This message was last edited by 6L6 at 12:57 AM, Aug 1st, 2013)

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