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Ten Bob

ENGLAND

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Oct 12th, 2012 06:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Replacing the Jazz / Jag bridge with a Mustang bridge; a popular mod but does anyone know will a Mustang bridge fit on the new VM Jazz / Jag ?

I've heard stories about the mustang bridge saddle spacing being wider and the strings sitting wide of the neck.

Any experiences?

reverendrob
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Oct 12th, 2012 10:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

IF you're worried about the vintage-type bridge not working, just shell out the extra bucks for a Mascis Jazzmaster and be done with it, it comes stock with a TOM already.

Zero issues with the standard bridge on my Jag, and my Squier Mustang came with a regular Mustang bridge already installed (the Squier VMs on the Mustangs don't come with the right bridge at all).

The complaints about the vintage Jag and Jazzmaster bridges are radically overstated IMO; any buzz or clang from them is typically if you're doing something silly like playing it unplugged and expecting it to be a Martin.

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 12th, 2012 10:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks. Yes I've got my eye on the Mascis although I've read that the pups may be a tad warmer and even woolly compared to other Jazzmasters.

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 12th, 2012 10:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

While we're on the subject Reverend (probably the wrong forum) can you tell me what IS the right way to set up a Jazz/Jag/Mustang bridge to reduce the likelihood of strings moving on those thereaded saddles..is it 'bridge low, saddles high'? I can see how increased break angle would create more tension. I'm keen to understand this because as you can gather from all my questions I'm probably going to purchase one of the above in the near future.

Thanks!

beatcomber

Lexington, Mass.

Oct 12th, 2012 01:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I recently picked up one of the new Squier Jazzmasters, which is my first and only offset model. Fantastic guitar, a true bargain for the price.

It took some fiddling with, but I figured out how to best set up the bridge. It's a balancing act - you have to have the bridge posts raised high enough and the saddles low enough so that the fronts of the six horizontal saddle screws are not angled upward where it can come into contact with the strings and so the strings can clear the lip of the bridge base. You also need to make sure the height of the two grub screws in each saddle is set fairly even so that the saddles do not rock sideways (and rattle).

Once everything is adjusted optimally, you should not have excessive rattle or problems with the E string popping out.

BTW, it's not very obvious, but the small Allen wrench that comes with the guitar fits both the saddle grub screws and the bridge height posts.

(This message was last edited by beatcomber at 01:38 PM, Oct 12th, 2012)

reverendrob
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Oct 12th, 2012 03:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mascis PUs are hotter than a normal Jazzmaster, just roll back the volume a bit if needed. They sound good, which is what matters.

Bridge-wise, I just set it to intonate right, but I don't break strings while playing etc and while I use a stupidly heavy pick I don't downtune or use heavy strings (10s on everything) so there's never really been a science for me in setting up any of the offsets. They are what they are, even the 'troubled' ones I've had friends drop off aren't hard to just adjust the saddles etc. Once the strings are at tension, I really have to work to move the strings off their spot I've put them on on the bridge.

beatcomber

Lexington, Mass.

Oct 14th, 2012 05:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Update - Apply some blue Loctite or Permatex to the saddles' grub screws and you won't have to worry about any more bridge rattle.

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Oct 16th, 2012 07:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I put a Fender Japan Mustang bridge on my VM Jazzmaster and it worked great.

If you are a stickler for radius, the Warmoth Modified Mustang bridge offers the Mustang saddles, but with individually adjustable saddle height.

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

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Oct 17th, 2012 04:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Are you happy with the action/ string to fretboard distance on your VM Jazz with the Japan Mustang bridge/

I never play with a very low action but its got to be comfortable.

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Oct 17th, 2012 09:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I thought it would be a problem but its not. The action is not quite as low as I usually keep it, but on this guitar, it happens to work out perfect.

reverendrob
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Oct 17th, 2012 09:53 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't think I've ever seen a JM/Jag with any bridge with a profoundly low aciton to be honest.

I have no issues with lowish or medium in general though.

You can however get a stock Mustang pretty damn low, which is I think why they were on the Adrian Belew list of preferred cheap toys.

beatcomber

Lexington, Mass.

Oct 18th, 2012 06:17 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I don't think I've ever seen a JM/Jag with any bridge with a profoundly low aciton to be honest. "

Mine is pretty low... using flatwound .011's.

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Oct 18th, 2012 01:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah I think they can be gotten fairly low. I could definitely go lower. the 7.25" radius bridge technically is a little higher in the center than the 9.5" radius neck. That cannot be helped.

But the difference is probably miniscule enough that I am not noticing it.

paul14477

USA

Oct 18th, 2012 08:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A trick I use on Jags & Jazzmasters is to shim the neck pocket with a fairly thick shim (credit card thickness). That lets me raise the bridge higher, creating a steeper angle behind the bridge. Try it with a maxed out credit card. They work better.

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(This message was last edited by reverendrob at 09:01 AM, Oct 19th, 2012)

beatcomber

Lexington, Mass.

Nov 5th, 2012 07:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I just this weekend did the credit card shim trick on both my VMJM as well as my friend's new VM Jaguar, and it makes a SUBSTANTIAL improvement. I was having some tuning issues before, and those have been solved thanks to the shim. Sustain and dynamics seems to have improved as well.

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Nov 5th, 2012 10:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I second the J Mascis Jazzmaster. Quality guitar and pickguards are identical to AVRI's

blueguitar007

usa

Jan 23rd, 2015 07:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

TOM bridges will bind when you whammy since they don't move thus coming out of tune.
Mustang bridges are not correct radius or spacing.
Mastery bridges are a joke for intonation and ugly.
I say use clear finger nail polish on the screws of the JM bridge or find nylon JM bridge screws on web.
The break angle thing can be to where the strings may hit the back of the bridge.
Most ppl set it up and lock it down with polish or locktight..whatever and never touch it again.
FWIW I have never had luck with strat bridges at all. At least JM/Jag bridges stay in tune when used.

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