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FDP Forum / All Other Fender Guitars and Instruments / Mustang: tuning issues?

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 3rd, 2012 09:34 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hope this is the right forum..Any Mustang players here have problems keeping in tune or is it ok? If not, are there any simple remedies?

I know you can steady the bridge by wrapping tape around the posts, but is it possible, (and if so how) to block / lock / immobilise the trem so the guitar functions like a hardtail?

Any tips would be appreciated as I'm thinking about buying a Mustang and need my guitars to stay in tune for gigs.

Many thanks

reverendrob
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Oct 3rd, 2012 10:05 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You can lock it by adjusting some screws underneath the trem if you want, but frankly I've never had an issue with a properly-set up Mustang going out of tune any more than any other guitar.

They'll make it through a full set without issues the vast majority of the time, from vintage to the MIJs to the current Squiers.

Just don't be all Hendrix with the bar, and it's fine (and even then, sometimes you can get away with it).

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 3rd, 2012 02:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks, sounds encouraging. I always give my strings a good stretch, I just assumed that due to the moveable nature of the bridge it would be difficult to play a set without the bridge moving at all. Do/did you palm mute and/or lean your playing hand on the bridge at all?

reverendrob
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Oct 3rd, 2012 07:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I rest my hand sometimes on the lipstick tube/trem, other times not.

The Mustang if you're not using the bar is as stable as my Jaguars, Jazzmaster, and Strats, none of which are decked.

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 4th, 2012 03:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks. Been drawn to the Mustang for years and love some of the tones i've heard.

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 10th, 2012 04:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh and another question; stretching strings after putting on a new set..since the bridge/trem moves, unlike a hardtail bridge, does it take a lot more effort to get the strings stretched and in tune?

I'm going to have to try out a Mustang for myself because all of these demo videos on youtube are full of people either playing tired old blues or shred with distortion, you rarely see anyone just demonstrating the basic clean tones of a guitar without some sort of self indulgent fiddling about.

reverendrob
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Oct 10th, 2012 05:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've never stretched the strings on a Mustang, and I've played one for 10-12 years plus some down time when I couldn't afford anything other than a Strat.

You're overthinking the thing, you get a decent setup, tune, and play.

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 12th, 2012 09:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

On a slight tangent, how do you find your Mustangs perform tonewise? I almost exclusively play a Tele at gigs, currently playing Ska/punk. Would you say the Mustang is more of a 'fun, quirky' guitar tonally, or can you get a good strong clean twang and a nice crunch with a tasteful dose of gain, for example?

I'm firmly in the single coil camp, occasional P90 but never humbuckers

I can't tolerate anything too 'brittle' or harsh though.

reverendrob
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Oct 12th, 2012 10:06 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't like Teles, so I'm no help in that department.

Pretty much you can get anything out of a Mustang within reason, including the particular out of phase Mustang sound that is either a love or hate thing. Clean it sounds like a Fender single coil guitar, and well, "tasteful dose of gain" doesnt mean much.

Both pickups on it's a bit more aggressive than a stock Strat.

Ten Bob

ENGLAND

Ham-fisted minimalist
Oct 12th, 2012 10:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

by "tasteful dose of gain" I basically mean just enough drive/gain to give a nice crunch (I'm playing through a Roland Cube 60 with master volume and gain knob on the amp modelling channel)..hard to objectively describe, just 'crunch' I suppose as opposed to a lot of distortion.

These are all Fender single coil guitars we're talking about so I reckon that as long as the pups are good, EQ on a good amp should deal with any issues.

willie
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Lawrenceville, GA.

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Oct 16th, 2012 04:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A long time back I discovered a trick for keeping Mustangs better in tune...at least as far as firming up the bridge and keeping it from rocking. On many older cheap, budget type acoustic guitars, many used some very thin metal tuning machine string ferrels that we found would fit exactly into the bridge sockets and the bridge would miraculously fit exactly into the ferrel and you would end up with a very solid bridge. Unfortunately those cheap little metal drop in ferrels are not all that easy to find. We used to harvest them off of old guitars and replace them with plastic ones.

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jbryan

Minneapolis

Oct 23rd, 2012 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I never have issues with either of my vintage Mustangs. I am still so surprised why everyone seems to have tuning issues with Mustangs. I've owned one of them for 20 years and my other one 10. All original, tuning hardward all original (plastic pegs), bridge is all original with no mods...so I tell people, Mustangs have no tuning issues- at least in my experience!

jbryan

Minneapolis

Oct 23rd, 2012 10:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You do need to stretch the strings on ANY guitar when you change them.! That's just Basic Setup Class 101 folks! Seriously- stretch the h*ll out of them when you put them on and do it again the next day. Doesn't matter if it's a Mustang, Strat, Tele, Les Paul, Squire, some odd guitar you found at a yard sale! You hafta do this and any good guitar teacher will also tell you this as well!

jbryan

Minneapolis

Oct 23rd, 2012 10:07 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You aren't going to "rock the bridge" when you stretch them- you can't stretch them that hard honestly. So that's not going to be an issue.

Ironically, I do have tuning issues with my new Pawnshop Series Mustang Special with the Strat style hardtail bridge! I have discovered it is the "B" string tuning peg that is not very secure feeling so I will need to replace that one. The others are nice and tight.t my 1972 and 1973 Stangs are rock solid.

As far as sound, if you like the twang of a Tele you can certainly get that out of a Mustang. In fact, when I occassionaly sit in with a friends band where they do a lot of '60's rock and country rock, I always grab the Mustang. I don't play them out very often so it's fun to gig with them-especially when they fit the tone so well with their music. My regular band, not so much as I do need a humbucker sound a lot of the time. That's why I picked up the Mustang Special since it has 2 humbuckers but I can split the coils for a singel coil sound. Just gotta get that one pesky tuning peg replaced!

Taildragger

USA

"Lost Money Magnet"
Aug 17th, 2013 08:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Lube the nut slots. I found that helped on my Gretsch that sports a Bigsby.

One option:

caseycash

Richmond, VA

Surf/Instro
Aug 18th, 2013 03:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I try to make sure the bridge is approximately in the middle of its travel range when I tune - that way if you use the vibrato bar it will be floating on both up and down use. I have two 1965 Mustangs and have never had a tuning issue, but I am not too aggressive with the whammy bar. And as above, lube the nut slots (and make sure they are cut to proper width to prevent binding).

(This message was last edited by caseycash at 05:41 AM, Aug 18th, 2013)

Steve Dallman
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Merrill, Wisconsin

Age is just a number...mine is big
Oct 15th, 2013 11:09 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The last one I worked on belonged to a guy that didn't want the trem. I took off the trem, and screwed the bar down with a couple small bolts that fit perfectly in the bar. Looked stock but held tight.

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