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De ville
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Jul 24th, 2012 08:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

cover my new Sabian B8 cymbals for an extra two years?

30.00 dollars would cover a 15"crash, 17" crash, 8" splash, and a 20" ride for two years against anything. Even dropping them, and free shipping is included.

The salesman said they would either be replaced or I could put the money towards other gear as they don't usually repair cymbals.

I'm a guitar player so these wont be hammered on as much as a full-time drummer may hammer on them. I am going to work on learning drums and will be using them to some degree.

Our bands drummer 'will' come over occasionally and give them a run for their money.

What say you?

(This message was last edited by De ville at 08:47 AM, Jul 24th, 2012)

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Jul 24th, 2012 10:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

“against anything”

If that’s truly the case, I would spend the extra money — especially since you already know they’re gonna get whacked.

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Jul 24th, 2012 01:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I find extended and dealer warranties (service contracts) to be a waste of money. Unless you plan to abuse the cymbals I'd say no.

If it really where such a good deal they wouldn't offer it and push it when you complete your order. Their profit is huge in these programs.

De ville
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Jul 24th, 2012 06:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

garp and Hammond, both your comments are exactly why I'm torn on this.

Both good points.

I usually don't like these extended warranties because of exactly what Hammond said.

On the other hand they are a fairly thin set, so there might be a chance of them cracking before two years is up.

I wondered if maybe it made sense as they are cymbals, and will be beat on?

I also wondered if anyone else had purchased the extended warrant, and used it?

Thanks for any information.

garp
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Jul 24th, 2012 06:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’ve never purchased an extended warranty for a musical instrument. Rather, I tend to buy instruments that come with a limited lifetime warranty.

I’m not a particularly aggressive player, and I don’t abuse my kit. So Sabian’s standard two-year warranty against defects in workmanship and materials would probably suit me just fine. I’m presuming that MF’s extended warranty would kick in *after* Sabian’s warranty expires.

I’ve only seen a couple of splashes get split over the years by aggressive players, but I’ve never seen a crash or ride split. Not saying it can’t happen.

De ville
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Jul 24th, 2012 07:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm guessing it happens to the cheap thin cymbals.

Well, to fill you in completely, I've purchased a used Tama ImperialStar kit off of Craigs. The kit is in great shape except for the cymbals. Well, in truth, just the 16" crash was in really poor shape. It was indeed cracked badly, and had a 1.5" x 4" piece missing!

With that said, I 'think' the cymbals that came with the set are not sounding very good compared to the Sabian B8 set the drummer uses.

The cymbals on the kit I purchased are Meinl HCS.

The ride sounded not bad, but I opted to replace the whole cymbal set.

I picked up the Sabian B8 set with a 15" and 17" crash, and a 8" splash for 167 and change with tax and free shipping. Not bad as the reviews are great for this basic set, and most people said they've held up well for them.

Lastly I purchased a separate 20" Sabian B8 ride.

So that's about it. I'm still waiting on the ride to arrive, but the other Sabians sound great to my ears.

The Tama ImperialStar kit is some shade of red and looks awesome!

I'm working on a photo.

garp, you are correct as these Sabians come with a two-year warranty already. So basically in 4 years if these cymbals are cheesed, MF would replace them, with the extra 2 year warranty.


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Jul 25th, 2012 02:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks like I'm a little late to the party but I tend to side with Hammond101 on this issue. I had A. Zildjans back in the day, and owned a 20" ride and a 16" crash for 30 plus years and never had a problem. When I was a kid, cymbal stand hardware was junk (compared to what it is today) and I even had the ride fall onto a concrete floor a time or two and was never damaged. Perhaps I just was lucky? I was also a heavy hitter and used the butt end of my sticks. So, unless that warranty covers fire and theft, I wouldn't consider it.

BTW, I just bought a used Tama Imperialstar kit back in March of this year. It's midnight blue. It too came with the Meinl cymbals which I have to say didn't sound all that bad, but, I quickly got rid of the ride and the crash and replaced them with A. Zildjan customs.

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Jul 25th, 2012 05:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I wouldn't pay the $30... I would put it and a little extra to finding good secondhand pro cymbals like Zildjian A, A Custom, K, New Beats or Sabian AA, HH, HHX or Paiste 2002, Dimensions, Innovations.

Then sell the B8's.


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Jul 25th, 2012 06:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Maybe I'm just a wuss drummer but when I was a kid I had my cymbals for probably 15 years and they were as good when I sold them as the day I bought them and I played them about every day and played them out quite a bit, until I left for college. I guess if you are a tear up an anvil type then maybe but exercise even a bit of care and you s/b fine.

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Jul 26th, 2012 04:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"I find extended and dealer warranties (service contracts) to be a waste of money. Unless you plan to abuse the cymbals I'd say no."

Agree think of your buying something that's made to be smashed with a stick, whats gonna happen to it?

Unless its electronics I stay away from all those warranty's.


De ville
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Jul 26th, 2012 11:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

While I was on the phone with the MF salesman, I was getting a good bit of pressure to buy the warranty frankly.

I followed my gut and didn't cave in. I've been leaning towards not getting the warranty.

Based on the responses here, I'm going to forgo the extended warranty. I'm fine with that.

I guess worst case (unlikely base on the responses) that if a cymbal cracks, it's one cymbal. These cymbals separately may only be twice what the extended warranty is.



De ville
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Jul 26th, 2012 11:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, here is the kit.

It still has hang tags on it!

I have a Sabian B8 ride and boom stand coming in Friday and Saturday.

IMPERIALSTAR

Lazmo

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Jul 27th, 2012 08:04 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Drums look great.

Tama makes good stuff.

Are you going to port the bass drum front head?

Looks like a fun room... :-)


Lazmo

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Jul 27th, 2012 08:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh... and I'd suggest opening up the legs a bit more on the crash cymbal stands.

nice...

De ville
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Jul 27th, 2012 08:47 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I don't know anything about porting, so the answer is I don't know.

Ya the legs are scrunched a bit! I'll fix that tonight after work. Thanks.

(This message was last edited by De ville at 01:34 PM, Jul 27th, 2012)

Lazmo

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Jul 27th, 2012 09:20 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Unported can sound great... think Bonham and a heap of jazz greats.

But a ported front head for most people is easier to tune for a nice low end thump without too much sustain... it's not so boingy. And because you can get your arm inside the drum through the port, you can adjust any damping you may be using inside the drum, to suit the room and stop it ringing for days. A down pillow sounds great, but these days I use an Evans bass drum pillow. Also for loud gigs the port is great because I can use a very short boom stand to get a mic in there.

But if you are getting the sort of bass drum sound that you want right now... just leave it the way it is.

(This message was last edited by Lazmo at 09:22 AM, Jul 27th, 2012)

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Jul 27th, 2012 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Schweeeeet looking kit!! I think you'll love'em. I had Rogers and Ludwig kits "back in the day" but I gotta tell ya my Tama Imperialstar set sounds so much better!

I did change out the batter heads on all of my toms with clear Remo Pinstripes. I'm also using Moon Gels on the snare and floor tom to kill off some of the unwanted overtones. And, I put a blanket inside the kick drum.

Happy drumming!

De ville
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Jul 27th, 2012 01:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hey, thanks for saying! Ya, I'm pretty pumped about the kit. I should have a cymbal arriving today. Can't wait!

I'll think about that porting Lazmo. I'm not a pro at scrutinizing drum tones, and don't even know how to tune the kit as of yet.

I'm just learning all this stuff, as I'm a guitar player posing as a drummer when no one's looking.

:-)

Lazmo

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Jul 30th, 2012 02:08 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I hear you... depending on the gig... I'm either a drummer posing as a guitar player... or a drummer posing as a drummer.

If you want some happy bedtime reading about tuning drums... type "Prof.Sound's Drum Tuning Bible" into your friendly search engine... you'll be reading for ages.

;-)


De ville
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Jul 31st, 2012 06:53 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Awesome! Thanks Lazmo.

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