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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Too Much
(This message was last edited by luke589 at 08:42 AM, May 15th, 2012)
(This message was last edited by lonesomebill at 07:08 AM, May 28th, 2012)
FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Telecasters / Too Much
luke589
ScotlandMay 15th, 2012 08:39 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I'm in the market for a Telecaster and I've looked at the vast range of models offered by Fender. It's way too much and not one of them has taken my fancy. And those "signature" models - what's that all about? Why would anyone in their right mind want to label themselves as some kind of wannabe clone of another player? Do they all play in tribute bands or something? Anyway, I've decided to build a partscaster from Fender and non-Fender parts to get what I want.
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Axe VictimMay 15th, 2012 11:55 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Jimmy Page played a "Les Paul" and was not in a tribute band. The same idea applies to any other signature guitar, including signature Teles.
If what you need isn't availble on the huge variety of Fender Teles, maybe you're not a Tele guy?
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Support local music!!!May 15th, 2012 12:01 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Tell Pete Townshend he's a "wanna-be" because he plays Clapton Signature Strats.
Go ahead, I dare ya. ;-)
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It's not just good..
...it's good enough.May 15th, 2012 02:55 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"If what you need isn't availble on the huge variety of Fender Teles, maybe you're not a Tele guy?"
It is hard to believe that you haven't been able to find at least one that you like out of the number you've tried. Personally, I can browse any of the local shops and easily pick several Tele's that I'd like to take home.
Oh, and I own a Jimmie Vaughan Strat, a parts-o-caster with a Robert Cray Strat neck, and a J5 Squier Tele (John 5 sig model).
I haven't quite figured what label I should adopt, but I do like playing all 3 instruments.
(;^D)
(some of us just like the features of a given model, regardless of who might endorse it)
luke589
ScotlandMay 16th, 2012 03:54 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Oh, I am a "Tele guy", but I haven't owned one for about 20 years. In 1981 I built a '52 replica just before Fender re-issued one themselves. Schecter body and neck, Seymour Duncan pickups, Fender hardware. I was hoping to find something "off the peg" this time to avoid going through all that hassle again.
There are just too many options available, even on a straightforward guitar like a Telecaster or Esquire, to find everything I want in a single model. Nice light body, but indifferent neck. Good neck, but body far too heavy etc. etc. Maybe I'm too particular.
BTW, don't forget that both Eddie Cochrane and Duane Eddy removed or replaced the "Chet Atkins" scratchplates from their 6120s. They had their own identity to establish and didn't want to be associated with another player however good that player was. That made sense to me - even back then.
The "Les Paul" is a special case - a completely new (at the time) solid guitar design, not a signature variation of an existing one.
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T-boned and puncturedMay 16th, 2012 06:53 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I guess it depends on your definition of "too much". Both of my Teles are homebrewed. Fun projects and have features I'd only get on a Custom Shop build. But both cost me well over $1000 US each to build. That may be too much for some.
Honestly the only production Tele that feels really good to me as-is is the 52 HR.
luke589
ScotlandMay 16th, 2012 12:34 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I wasn't referring to price when I titled the thread "too much". It was a reference to all the variables involved in even a seemingly straightforward guitar like the Telecaster or Esquire and the difficulty in finding just the right ones for me in a single "off the peg" model.
In building from parts, I fully expect to pay roughly the equivalent of a US made production Telecaster including money wasted on things that don't work out as hoped.
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RonHalen Jokingly He SaysMay 20th, 2012 12:07 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Are there a good selection of guitars in Scotland? Seems like other posters indicate they don't have any selection.
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Final Four!May 20th, 2012 12:41 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Being so picky about a guitar is a bit limiting I would think. I go from Strats to Les Paul, to 335's to Tele's to J-45 without a thought. Even my Strats are very different. An Eric Clapton Signature and a 2000 Texas Special. (I don't have a problem with EC's signature on the headstock as I admire the man). It had the V-neck and Noiseless pups I wanted. I would think you could find a model that fits most of your wants and make minor tweaks to make it yours. Building one yourself is ok as long as you never try to sell it.
nogin007
Alabama/USAMay 21st, 2012 07:42 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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You need to try a Squier CV50.
dbluesband
USAMay 21st, 2012 09:22 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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No problem "growing your own tele". Of course , once you complete it, there is no guarentee that you will not lust for another! I find looking for the ulitmate Telecaster(or any guitar for that matter!) is a bit like the quest for the Holy Grail.
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T-boned and puncturedMay 21st, 2012 09:33 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Well, it is pretty academic. Wanting very specific things that are not featured on a stock model leaves two options; Custom $hop or roll-yer-own. I love my two homebrews and resale has never been a consideration.
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Slavering over a hot stave.May 21st, 2012 10:48 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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While Luke doesn't specify his er.. specifications, I can sympathise. I'm currently looking at getting a tele and can't get what I want off the shelf unless it's Custom Shop which I can't afford.
I'm looking in the MIM price range. I would have thought this spec wouldn't be too leftfield these days, basically it's a '52RI with a 9.5" radius and cheaper paint/manufacture:
ash body
butterscotch
maple neck, C shape, heel truss rod adjust
9.5" radius
3 saddle bridge
The closest would be the Baja but I don't get on with V necks, or the Squier CV and see if I can live with the pine body and headstock end truss rod.
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It's not just good..
...it's good enough.May 21st, 2012 01:13 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"Well, it is pretty academic. Wanting very specific things that are not featured on a stock model leaves two options; Custom $hop or roll-yer-own. I love my two homebrews and resale has never been a consideration."
Or Option #3, which would be to buy something off-the-shelf that's close to the desired specs and just make some modifications (for example, adding a 3-barrel bridge, or replacing pickups, etc...).
Kind of a parts-o-caster project with a head start.
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idiot - I have several pieces missing!May 22nd, 2012 02:02 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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The world is littered with Telecasters and Telecaster parts. Pickups are everyday replacement items.
Get your preferred neck and a body within your comfort range. Bridge and pickup selections are available about anywhere. If you're not comfortable with the wiring, have a tech stick the thing together and set it up for you.
It's pretty easy stuff.
lox
Columbus, Ohio
DocofrockMay 24th, 2012 10:23 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I have several Teles but I tend to prefer the vintage style 3 barrel brass bridges, a thicker or bigger neck of some kind, and an ash body with vintage style pickups (alnico 3 magnets). One of my best Teles is a Highway 1 Texas Tele with Nocaster pickups instead of the stock hotter ones. Neck has a flatter radius, supposedly 12" but in reality somewhere between 9.5 and 12 inches according to my luthier. About 7.5 pounds in weight so is very manageable to play standing for several hours if you have to.
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Musical accident waiting to happenMay 24th, 2012 11:37 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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"Kind of a parts-o-caster project with a head start."
That's what I did (used AS 1992 as a base).
lonesomebill
USA/Southwest
Don't watch my foot!May 24th, 2012 04:21 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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The last three teles I have owned were cobbled together. I currently play a "60s" that has a Nashville neck, MIM LPB body (couldn't find that body with a rosewood neck). The pups are a twisted Tele and an AVRI staggered pole in the bridge position. Plays great and no one else has one like it.
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It's not just good..
...it's good enough.May 27th, 2012 01:22 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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""Kind of a parts-o-caster project with a head start."
That's what I did (used AS 1992 as a base)."
My #1 Tele started it's life as a MIM Esquire.
Bought it used with a Fralin bridge pickup and then added a Barden neck pickup. I like it better than the '52RI I owned several years ago.
Another Tele is a true parts-o-caster with a MIM body, Warmoth (Strat) neck, and Barden pickups.
Resale isn't as issue for me since, as far as I'm concerned, these are both "custom shop" guitars. They were built to my specs and they met and/or exceeded all expectations.
lox
Columbus, Ohio
DocofrockMay 29th, 2012 10:03 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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You might be able to find one of the Fender FSR butterscotch blonde Teles that were available in 2011. Guitar Center had some as did ProGuitarShop.com. I also noticed that they were available in Australia. they have the overall look of the 52 Reissue but with a more modern 9.5" fretboard. Sold for about $500 in the US and they were a bargain at that price.
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