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OASYSCO

USA

May 11th, 2012 08:12 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have owned a couple of Fender amps - and everyone of them has sounded terrible. I use good guitars from Fender, Gibson, etc, so it's not the guitars.

I bought a Fender Jazz King some years ago. Do you think my playing sounds jazzy through that amp? Noooo. When I'm playing jazz tunes, don't you think it should like jazz? Well, it doesn't!

The amp muffles some of the notes. That is, not all the notes I play make it out the front of the amp. And the worst part is that the amp messes up the song's rhythm and timing. I don't know if the amp's CPU is really busy at certain times, but the sound slows down then speeds up then misses some notes and the REALLY bad part - is that the amp does not always play the right notes!

So I picked up a G-Dec 3 Thirty, figuring that Fender had probably fixed the sound reproduction problem I mentioned above, assuming the G-DEC has a more modern and faster CPU than the Jazz King. Well, it must not because it sounds no better than the Jazz King! Same muffling of notes and busy CPU speeding up and slowing down the sound between the notes cutting out!

The problem is intermittent, though. I had a fellow guitarist over last weekend and had him plug into the G-DEC and you know what? It sounded excellent. So, I had him unplug so I could plug into the G-DEC and the damn thing must have started to overheat in the time it took me to plug in because - you guessed it - it started to screw up again.

My friend noticed it, too, because he looked at me like there was fresh dogsh*t pouring out of the front of my amp. We both looked at each other incredulously, neither of us believing what our ears were hearing.

Whatever it is, it's intermittent and because it's very difficult to reproduce, I'm not sure how I can fix it. The only course of action left to me it seems is to try another brand of amp!

Anybody know if the CPUs are better in other amp makes?

(This message was last edited by OASYSCO at 08:13 AM, May 11th, 2012)

amphead4

Cincinnati, USA

May 11th, 2012 08:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It's not just Fender amps.

Whenever I repair an amp for someone, I have to let them play through it to see if it sounds good. Whenever I play through one, it's always too loud and sounds like crap.

It's the same with guitars too.

OASYSCO

USA

May 11th, 2012 08:25 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was afraid it wasn't just Fender amps. Truth be told, every amp I've ever played through has not sounded good. It's not my guitars, though. I own a Gibson ES-175, and Epi 339 and other decent guitars.

You know, I have a similar problem with metronomes. I've owned a bunch of 'em - analog and digital and none of the keep time right! They're forever speeding up or slowing down.

And now that I think of it, weight scales are problematic, too. None of them give me the same reading for my weight and all of them are off by at least 40lbs!

Why is that?

willie
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May 11th, 2012 08:46 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

(great!)

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Deacon Blues
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May 11th, 2012 09:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've noticed the same thing with amps. However, when someone else plays through the same amp it sounds great. It must be an intermittent glitch in all amps.


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5Strats
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May 11th, 2012 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What a completely odd thread. I hope you're joking, otherwise . . .

LudwigVonFender
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May 11th, 2012 10:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Why do I feel like there is a Darwinism element in this thread. Odd doesn't really describe it for me.

However, don't you know you have to train your amp to be obedient to your command? I use whips when my amp(s) become unruly and spit out wrong notes and muffled sound. ;)

Mintage

Europe

Linus66
May 11th, 2012 11:21 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

You talk about Fender amps - and then you mention a Fender Jazz King and a Fender G-Dec...?!?
Sorry, but we┬┤re talking about amps - not toys.
You have a Gibson guitar and a Fender guitar, so buy a Fender Tube Amp (after testing them!) and you will find out that the sound is still there.


tdhall

florida

tdhall
May 11th, 2012 11:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

To make a Fender amp sound good, practice.


OASYSCO

USA

May 11th, 2012 03:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

>You have a Gibson guitar and a Fender guitar, so
>buy a Fender Tube Amp (after testing them!) and you
>will find out that the sound is still there.

Not so! I also have a 70's Princeton that sounds terrible and has that same intermittent problem, depending on who is playing through it. And what's more, those stupid glass sticks... those tubular things... whatever they're called, they keep cracking if I accidentally drop them on the floor whenever I take them out to polish them. I even dipped them in that black spray-on truck bed liner stuff and the amp still doesn't sound right!

mongoonlypawn
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May 11th, 2012 04:36 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A lot of people have trouble distinguishing between "loudness" and "volume". Volume, of course, is related to quantity, in this case, quantity of good sound. Most amps today feature such a control. (Clearly we live in the golden age of amplifiers.) The only way to maximize the amount of good sound coming from your amplifier is to set the volume knob at full. And use fuzz pedals. 3 or 4 at least.

Send that nasty ol' Princeton to me, along with a check for $35 (handling) and I'll see that it never makes you feel bad again.


Hammond101
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So. Cal. USA

May 11th, 2012 04:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I love the creativity around this place.

Liquid dogsh*t LMFAO.....not funny when your dog's indoors.

Alderandash
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QLD Australia

May 11th, 2012 04:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Someone forgot to tell you that they are supposed to be played face down so the speakers face and touch the floor.
Isn't that how jazz sounds are made?

budg
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May 11th, 2012 06:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A trolls gotta troll, just sayin.

fredocaster

USA

May 11th, 2012 06:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Forget the jazz king and gdec. If you don't like your Princeton, please feel free to contribute to my small amp collection. Then buy a real Fender amp ;-)

Seriously, if you are going solid state the Mustang III is a good choice. Otherwise you might want to test drive some other small to midsize Fender tube amps. I don't have much experience with your guitars, though. So I'm not sure what the best amp match might be for your Gibby and Epi.

My LP sounds good through all my Fender amps (especially the twin), but it certainly isn't the same as an es-175 or 339.

(This message was last edited by fredocaster at 06:49 PM, May 11th, 2012)

Snakeboy

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May 11th, 2012 08:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The problem is in the modern 3 prong cord.
If you remove that stupid ground thing, and stand in a puddle of water on a concrete floor, they'll all sound fantastic.

Really.

Fritz_D_Cat
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May 11th, 2012 09:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Snakeboy nails it. This is about ELECTRIC guitar.

Cal-Woody

USA/California

Why do I keep fixing things that work?
May 12th, 2012 07:39 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So, I turn my amp up and my acoustic guitar is still at the same volume????

What the heck is going on here???

QUACK!!!

This sounds like a scheme to try and get opinions for a reason to buy more gear than the wife will allow!?!?!!!!

Don't use an excuse, just go buy the amp you want, then learn how to play your guitar so the wife will want to invest in your talent!!!!

Twangmeister
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May 12th, 2012 10:00 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The problem is simple. You are not using the right amp.

You need to go to a pawn shop and buy a used Gorilla amp. They are real sleepers. The right one is the one with the tone knobs.

Turn up the knobs and you will end up with tone for days unless you unplug the amp or turn it off.

StratQuebec

Canada

Patient people get what they want.
May 12th, 2012 06:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

An amplifier basically simply amplify what's plugged in !

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