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FDP Forum / Amp Mods, Repairs, and Projects / I have a "Tweed Era" project in mind.....

BobRuth
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The Houston area...

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Apr 12th, 2012 08:37 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Starting with a question... if anybody has an opinion... did the old late 50's Twin based on two 6L6's have similar sound to the big 60's Twin with the reverb and all turned off? What I am looking for is that same bright twang....

What I am thinking of is trying to "marry" the Twin's pre-amp with a pair of 6V6's to get as close as I can to the Twin sound....but at a much lower level.

We have a couple of gigs we play where the people running it are SUPER cranky about volumes.... to the point where I am having to play my HR DeVille so low that it sounds dead running that way....

I have wanted a smaller amp anyway.... so I am looking for quality brightness.... at a lower level... with just a little ooomph when you turn it up. I can mic it if needed....

What do you think?

Peegoo
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Apr 12th, 2012 09:41 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would shoot for a Princeton format...15-18 watts through a single 10 or 12. Very portable and plenty of oomph for a non-metal gig =o)

BobRuth
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Apr 12th, 2012 09:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Peegoo that is another thing I was hoping for.... suggestions! What we play is largely made up of 1970's country... a little blues.. some classic rock.. my needs are more clean, decent low volume tone... to make these fussy places happy.

carsten

on the rhine

Apr 13th, 2012 02:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

hi bob!

i 2nd peegoo´s advice for the princeton reverb!

i hvae a ´79 and it´s one of my favourite amps.
hard to get a bad sound out of it ;)


cheers - C.

Hammond101
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Apr 13th, 2012 09:41 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Bob,

Although different than a Twin Reverb my tweed Twin build is quite chimey and plesent turned down. It will and does growl when cranked.

Although I really like the sound of a PR and they work well at quiet gigs, I've never found them to suit enough of my playing situations to be happy with them. I owned a '66.

I use or was using a Deluxe Reverb (home built, pix in profile)for the quiet stuff until I built the Twin. The DR will sound just as good as the PR turned down and you have somthing left for those medium clubs where you can get it into its sweet spot.

I'm using the tweed Twin for everything now unless I'm outdoors in the wide open. The Twin is warmer than my DR when turned down and more responsive too.

Hammond101
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Apr 13th, 2012 09:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Oh yeah,

The amp you describe in the OP would be basically a Pro Reverb. I own a '67 and now prefer the Twin to it as well when turned down do say a smooth jazz level.

The Pro is a great amp with clean BF tone 'til about 5 on the dial. You should check out the schmatic and layout. It is basically a tube rectified Twin Reverb with 2-6L6s for power. A really sweet amp but at levels a bit louded than I think you are after.

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Apr 13th, 2012 01:50 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I built a tweed Deluxe circuit into an old tube PA head. I followed the 5E3 circuit. Since I used the power and output transformers in that PA head, the voltages are higher than in a 5E3, which gives the amp more headroom. It can get loud, but still retains the character of the 5E3.

The interaction of the volume controls allows a great range of tones. When plugged into one channel, the control(s) of the other channel affect the tone of the channel used. When turning the unused channel volume up, there is a point where a great mid cut happens, which gets a "blackface" tone out of the amp.

BobRuth
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Apr 13th, 2012 04:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thank you all so much for the continued replies. I'm going to have to sit down and do some soul-searching... it is obvious.

Thanks again.

Bob

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Apr 13th, 2012 09:52 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Finding an amp project that will have better volume control than a DeVille is a bit like shooting fish in a bucket, IMO. Not only are DeVilles loud, but the volume taper is often pretty unfavorable, and they have a "raw" sound that often sounds louder than they really are.

I'd shoot for something Deluxe/Vibrolux-ish. But frankly, I think my blackface twin has better volume control than a DeVille.... YMMV.

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