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reverend mikey
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Mar 28th, 2012 03:01 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thought I might as well start a new thread with this question...

...does anyone know - is there any accurate info somewhere that tells which Gibsons are now coming with baked maple boards? Are some standards, like the SG Standard or Les Paul Standard? Or are they still reserving this for Specials, studios, etc.?

Their website still says, for example, that the SG Standard has a rosewood board. I just ordered one, and I'm wondering if it will be rosewood or baked maple? I won't send it back because of the bm board (that sounds bad...), but I'd rather get rosewood.

yellowrubberduck

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Mar 28th, 2012 03:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

very good question. from what i understood all the regular production stuff will use Baked Maple from now on.

i'm really wondering how it plays. i'm a rosewood man ;)



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Mar 28th, 2012 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have played a couple and they play fine to me.I also have a richlite board on mine and it plays fine and sounds fine. The fretboard importance as a tonewood is overated imo.

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Mar 28th, 2012 03:20 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I understand that they're shipping "Customs" with the BM boards now.

While I'm sure it's probably as good as anything else to make a fretboard out of, it seems to be a severe about-face from the old company line about the use of "the finest materials" constituting the old "only a _____ is good enough" nonsense.

If they said the guitar you ordered has a RW fretboard, it had better.

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Mar 28th, 2012 04:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a current production 339 and it's rosewood.

However, no need to be terrified of torrified because Fender's been using maple for a long time. Some folks like it =o)

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Mar 28th, 2012 07:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Well, a lot of them are Obeche? It's supposed to be light in color but some are black?

Don't really understand it when Fender and Asian manufacturers still seem to use Indian Rosewood without a problem.

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Mar 28th, 2012 08:11 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I prefer the fried ones ;^)

Peegoo
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Mar 28th, 2012 09:17 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Mmmm crispybaconfretboards....

reverend mikey
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Mar 29th, 2012 11:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"If they said the guitar you ordered has a RW fretboard, it had better."

^^^This^^^

If they've changed their specs, they need to change the info on their website, otherwise my opinion of Gibson starts going back down again...
which is too bad, cuz I've seen a lot of nice Gibsons being built lately.

Paul L

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Mar 29th, 2012 12:09 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Here is some information from Gibson's web site, as well as some general info on Wikipedia, that may help shed light on this issue.

Gibson's comments on tonewoods

Paul L

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Mar 29th, 2012 12:10 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Scroll down to the bottom section, "Recent Criticism & Controversy"

Wikipedia

telegib

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Mar 29th, 2012 06:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

It is sad that Gibson has to switch to baked maple just to keep guitars flowing through their plant.

I'm not saying that baked maple is bad and eventually a lot of guitar makers will use alternate woods. Martin has been trying to get customers into different types of woods over the past few years. But we all know why we are not seeing those beautiful thick rosewood fingerboards nowadays.



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Mar 29th, 2012 07:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My LP Classic Plus has a baked maple fretboard...nice and dark, you'd think it was rosewood from more than 3 feet away.

Plays sweet too. I wasn't a fan until I played one.

Dean

reverend mikey
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Mar 30th, 2012 09:44 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Hmmm... also "layered fingerboards"? First I've heard of this.

Anyway, my main concern is that their spec pages match reality. I checked several models, and some specs seem to be accurate. Interestingly, the 60's Tribute LP has a "baked maple" fingerboard, while a 60's Tribute SG has an "American Rosewood" fingerboard - layered, perhaps? Standard LP's and SG's still say "rosewood" fingerboard...hope this is the case, and again, are these layered?



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Mar 31st, 2012 02:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I know it wasn't Mikey's question, but I must say that I've been pleasantly surprised by the baked Maple fingerboard on my '60s Tribute LP. I'm undecided about the effect on tone, but I really like the feel, which is smoother under the fingers. I think I prefer the feel when bending to rosewood, even though I was deeply suspicious of of the BM before I bought it.

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Mar 31st, 2012 01:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Layered rosewood fingerboards."

I turned a cheap, Kay electric bass into a fretless around 1970. I took off the fingerboard, and replaced it with a piece of plywood, topped off with a sheet of white formica.

It looked great with black nylon wrapped strings.

I guess plywood is OK for fingerboards, since Gibson is using plywood for their guitars.

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Mar 31st, 2012 02:14 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

" I took off the fingerboard, and replaced it with a piece of plywood, topped off with a sheet of white formica. "

Formica on Gibson is not far away the way things are going.

Granadillo!!!!....WTF.
Couldn't they call it Mexican Rosewood or something?
Obeche Granadillo makes me think of an over weight guard at Buckingham Palace.


Dave5150

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Apr 1st, 2012 10:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Ahh yes, Formica from the rarest of tonewood trees, the legendary Formicasia Tree. Found only at high elevation in the tropics and harvested only twice every decade by a lost tribe of people who worship the trees and only allow them to be used for things like musical instruments.... or toilet seats...

You see, it's all about the marketing ;)

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Apr 1st, 2012 11:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I had no idea about the baked maple and rosewood laminate FBs from Gibson. I have several Gibson guitars and all are now officially unsustainable?

Sustainability: we don't really know what it means but it's fall the rage. As an engineer, my profession has been bombarded by the "green" and "sustainable" craze. Trouble is, nothing is really sustainable now is it? what does "green" really mean and does owning pre-sustainable era Gibsons make me "ungreen"?

Sheesh, I think I'll take a cold shower now.

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Apr 1st, 2012 12:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

There are enough used guitars in the world to last many. many decades.

Don't sweat it.

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