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FDP Forum / Guitar Mods, Repairs, and Projects / Composing solos vs. Improvising in a Band

Vic Vega
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Mar 25th, 2012 08:49 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I grew up a metal fan and a lot of metal guitarists compose solos and then play them either entirely or almost entirely as they were recorded. Iron Maiden is my favorite metal band and they do it.

I'm also a huge Lynyrd Skynyrd fan and they often stick very close to the recorded version.

Even now, when my band learns a new song, if I am improvising the solo when the song is new, over time I kind of compose the solo as we perform it live and in practice and I usually end up with something I play pretty close to the same way every time.

What are your thoughts on this?

(This message was last edited by Vic Vega at 08:51 PM, Mar 25th, 2012)

Jungle_Rat

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Mar 25th, 2012 09:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think you probably meant to post to Performers Corner or chop shop. But, anyway, I try to make every solo as improvised as I can. Sometimes, with a certain song, recurring themes will develop after repeated practices, but I don't necessarily play them all every time, or in the same order. Even though I play 'rock' music for the most-part, my inspiration/influences for my soloing style comes mostly from jazz. Even outside of solos, I try to keep my rhythm playing and fills as unscripted as possible.

Vic Vega
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Mar 26th, 2012 08:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes. Should be in Performers. If one of the mods can move it, that would be great.

(This message was last edited by Vic Vega at 08:52 AM, Mar 26th, 2012)

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Mar 26th, 2012 09:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Also assuming this will get moved. I find that improvising is pretty hit or miss. Some brilliant stuff comes up & some clunkers & fluff too. In rehearsal or with recordings of the material I use improvisation to come up with ideas. I try to keep & organize the "good stuff" & eliminate the indulgent fluff, so that by the time we perform or record I have use a pretty scripted solo, so that the audience gets what works & isn't subjected to the weaker more indulgent stuff.
Some people are better at pure improv. I need to sort it out some.

Peegoo
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Mar 26th, 2012 03:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some songs *demand* the signature riff or note-for-note lead lines of the recorded versions. Especially the Skynyrd stuff. If you can get in the ball park and still throw in your own voice, go for it. Why sound like a jukebox, when you can compose on the fly?

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Mar 26th, 2012 03:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I generally am "Mr. Improv," but I do play certain solos pretty much as they are on our CD when my band plays live (even though I improvised them in the studio).

It amazes me that players like Satriani and Vai play so many notes, but rarely improvise. I can't imagine committing all that to memory!

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Mar 27th, 2012 04:46 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"It amazes me that players like Satriani and Vai play so many notes, but rarely improvise. I can't imagine committing all that to memory!"

I know what you mean. I don't have the memory for that anymore.


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