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FDP Forum / Fender Guitars: Jaguars & Jazzmasters / The elusive Squier Mascis Jazzmasters have been sighted.

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Dolemite

Put yo' weight on it

Sep 16th, 2012 01:00 PM   Edit   Profile  

Hey fellers. Got one a couple months ago. It's boss! Like revrob, I swapped out the bridge for a T-O-M. Also added a buzzstop to keep the strings from popping out of the saddles.

I really like the pickups - they sound crispy played clean, and really get along with pedals nicely. Think I'll go fishing for a AVRI Jazzmaster pickguard. Saw the Mascis JM that someone put a white pg on, it looked swell.

reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
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Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Sep 16th, 2012 01:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

I gave up on pickguard swapping, didn't want to lose the brightness of hte aluminum. Now just covering it with stickers and hoping I forget it's there.

Dolemite

Put yo' weight on it

Sep 16th, 2012 05:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Brightness? Sound-wise? Didn't know it made a difference..

reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
Moderator

Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Sep 16th, 2012 08:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yea, the aluminum appears to have an influence compared to the plastic, for shielding and a little resonance.

Basically I don't want to mess up anything with what is one of my favorite instruments I've had in a long time.

Frank Hudson

USA

Tone is stuck on my fingers
Sep 23rd, 2012 11:13 AM   Edit   Profile  

OK, I'm about to take the plunge. First new guitar in years (though I bought a Squier Jaguar bass earlier this year). Just pulled the trigger on one from the FDP link to Sweetwater.

I've never understood the Jazzmaster, much less the Jaguar switches, but as a Tom Verlaine fan I've kind of always wondered about Jazzmasters.

As a long time Telecaster and Strat player, what should I expect?

reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
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Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Sep 23rd, 2012 01:25 PM   Edit   Profile  

Mascis Jazzmaster has a couple things fixed on that will lessen your pain: a working bridge out of the box (I have zero problems with the Jag/JM stock bridges as they come but I know how to tweak them too), the trem is up a bit from "vintage" models that helps the tuning stability. Aluminum pickguard helps in the hum department, I can run ridiculous gain with minimal issues (usually caused by the pedals, not the guitar).

Basically I'd expect a broader range of options than the Strat - the rhythm circuit will be dark in a way that a Strat just doesn't get to (and may take pedal or amp tweaking to get to be something that you'll want to use), and a brightness on the high end that's somewhere in the Strat to Jaguar range generally. It won't go icepick like a Jaguar, which may or may not be good for you (for most people, this a good thing).

And then you get the trem. The trem, more than anything, is why I love the Jag and Jazzmaster. Even if you're not using it, the extra string length before hitting the back of the trem and the whole suspension bridge thing lends a sort of harp-like resonance sometimes.

I'd bring a Jazzmaster as a 'do everything' guitar probably, it's much less of a niche instrument than most people make it out to be in terms of what you can get out of it.

Now don't get me wrong, I think I prefer the Jaguar as an overall instrument, but I understand its limitations (which are far greater than a Jazzmaster's) and have ways around it, including a Jaguar with buckers. Not one of those damn no trem ones though.

Frank Hudson

USA

Tone is stuck on my fingers
Sep 29th, 2012 07:44 PM   Edit   Profile  

Well mine's arrived, and I was able to play for a half an hour or so at a modest volume.

Cosmetically and out of the box setup wise, nothing to complain about. Fretwork is fine, everything works, action is a bit on the higher side of average, but no buzzes and most of my guitars are bit higher than average anyway. This guitar does not look or feel "cheap". Unlike Rob, I like the gold metal pickguard's looks--matter of taste I guess.

First impression of the neck carve is: moderately thin and wide. I appreciated the width right off.

It's rare to hear a conventional wide single coil guitar so without noise. I did not go super high gain, but I did run a compressor which would normally boost any hum and there was none. Nice.

Timbre-wise it was most like my Squier Custom II Tele with two P90s. The different bridges and body woods change the attack envelope and resonance though.

I found the separate rhythm circuit useful, which surprised me. All the years I've heard about that, and it seemed like complication without reward. Now that I'm using it, I find it musical, I just roll the tone and volume back a bit and I have a darker less biting tone at the flick of the slider switch. When on the conventional switch position, the volume and tone knobs are easy to reach for pinky volume swells or fake wah, though you have to get down low on the tone to hear the wah wah sweep.

I like the vibrato bridge action. Smooth and a range wider than the average floating Strat setup if you don't mind the risk of going out of tune if you abuse it to the limits of it's travel. Like a Bigsby: you're fine if you just warble, but if you throw caution to the winds you can can really wring a lot of pitch mayhem out of it.

Biggest negative so far: the dang non-treaded whammy bar falls out all the time. I can get it to "rest" at a desired angle for a bit, but any shaking or movement on the guitar and it flops down, if it doesn't fall out altogether. Rob, what do veteran Jazzmaster players do about this?

reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
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Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Sep 30th, 2012 05:30 PM   Edit   Profile  

Are you sure you've pushed the bar in until it snaps into place?

That's 99% of the problem.

Failing that it turns into plumbers tape and prayer, and you just sort of deal with it.

Think it's why Fender went with the threaded arms on the Classic Players, it does eliminate the problem.

littleuch
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Michigan

Nov 1st, 2012 06:53 PM   Edit   Profile  

I picked up a new Mascis JM yesterday and am having fun with my first ever offset. Strung it with 11's, tweaked the trussrod, adjusted height (pretty high on the bass side) and nudged intonation on high e and b strings.

The tone seems to darken up pretty quick rolling back the volume, even around 8-9. Is there a treble bleed mod suggested for this model?





reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
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Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Nov 1st, 2012 07:01 PM   Edit   Profile  

On the rhythm section, it gets dark fast, no problems with brightness on the normal circuit and I normally keep the volume rolled back a bit.

littleuch
Contributing Member
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Michigan

Nov 1st, 2012 07:17 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, I figured out the rhythm circuit pretty quick. Limited but usable. I'm talking about the lead circuit. On my guitar the treble roll off is very quick in all 3 positions.

I love the pop on the low strings. A very articulate bass, not quite piano-like, but very unique, especially with a slight palm muting.

reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
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Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Nov 1st, 2012 11:58 PM   Edit   Profile  

May be your strings or gauge, I'm using stainless 10s as usual (which I use on everything) so they're a hair brighter and lighter.

Bubbalou
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USA

THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Nov 2nd, 2012 06:07 AM   Edit   Profile  

Reverendrob, what brand of stainless are you using.I like Non biting highs and big but clear lowend.

littleuch
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Michigan

Nov 2nd, 2012 03:16 PM   Edit   Profile  

Not the strings in my case, I observed this with the stock 10's and after changing to 11's. It's not that bigga deal, but I'll probably dabble with some switcharoo on the pots and maybe research a treble bleed mod.

reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
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Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Nov 2nd, 2012 09:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

Standard Fender stainless 10s.

Nothing special!

littleuch
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Michigan

Nov 4th, 2012 10:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

Mine came with what appeared to be a pretty fresh set of D'Addario 10's (unless other manufacturers use multi-colored ball-end strings). I've been using E.B. Cobalt Power Slinky's on most of my guitars and the tension feels good on this one.

I've now tried the JM through my Princeton Reverb II, Peavey C30 and just today my Ampeg Reverberocket II. The Ampeg and this guitar sound like a match made in heaven. What can sound a bit brittle and strident on the bridge position using the PRII and C30 sounds crispalicious on the Ampeg. Still thinking about different pots. As I understand these come with 1 meg pots, maybe 500K? We'll see.

Also, as much as I'd way prefer a tort pickguard over the White/gold, it appears that suitable new replacement pickguards run around 20% of the guitar's cost. Ain't gonna do it.

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 10:51 AM, Nov 4th, 2012)

Bubbalou
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USA

THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Nov 4th, 2012 11:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

littleuch, I too think the 500K pot alleviate that spiky high on the Jag's. I just put DR Pure Blues nickel .011's-.050's on my J Mascis Jagmaster and the spikey highs is gone. I may change the pot later on but going to leave it for now to see how I bond with it as is.

reverendrob
FDP Data Goon
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Hero, hero

you have done so well...
Nov 4th, 2012 11:53 AM   Edit   Profile  

Also keep in mind that the aluminum pickguard may be adding some to the high end - I'd take it off provisionally or make sure you keep the old pots around in case it gets too dark should you change it.

And while the Mascis pickguard replacement is expensive, you can get all that money back or very close to it reselling the aluminum one. People seem to want them.

littleuch
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Michigan

Nov 8th, 2012 05:28 AM   Edit   Profile  

I emailed one retailer that sells a variety of Jazzmaster pickguards and they found it doubtful that an AV Jazzmaster pickguard would fit the Squier Mascis. They offered I do a tracing and send it to them which was nice but I guess I'm just not excited enough to follow through.

I'm really enjoying this guitar and anxious to try it out in a jam setting. So far tuners and bridge have proven very stable. I've only popped the low e off the saddle once, but that was with a thumb during an over the top fingerpickin' thing. I'm not going to make a call on the pots until I try it with a band setting. Solution so far is working the tone control. I let it rip the other day for the first time with some high gain settings (not my usual thing) and was pleasantly surprised. Good thing my wife wasn't home for the abuse and rock pig posturing. The pickups become noticeably noisier in high gain settings, but not any more than the usual P90 pickup. I'm normally not a fan of "2 pickups on" selection with high gain but the JM sounded really good there and benefitted by less buzz.

The neck on this guitar is outstanding.

Bubbalou
Contributing Member
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USA

THE LOW END OF UPPER TEJAS
Nov 13th, 2012 12:10 AM   Edit   Profile  

I put a set of Cobalt .011-.049's on my Jazzmaster and like the tone I am getting.


"Also keep in mind that the aluminum pickguard may be adding some to the high end - "
I guess that is possible, however aluminum is non magnetic. Mine is still tinny with the new Plastic Pickguard on it. I can't be for sure that there is not a difference as I changed the pickguard and hung on the wall until my new strings came in the following day so there may have been enough time lapsed that allowed me to not hear much difference if you know what I mean. It might be nice to have two (one stock and the other with plastic pickguard) to A/B properly.

Also, I want to thank the poster who said to push the tremolo arm in as far as it would go. The trem arm stays in place now and the tone (using the trem) is much nicer to listen too. Sounds like it is supposed to now.

(This message was last edited by Bubbalou at 04:58 AM, Nov 13th, 2012)

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