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De ville
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Mar 19th, 2012 11:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

My friend wants to buy a used set. He might pop for a new set though.

Neither of us know what to watch out for or look for.

The set will be used by novices. He wants to spend in the ballpark of 500.00.

I think he might be willing to spend more if needed.

Not looking to gig. Just don't want to buy a POS even though were needing a starter set to make noise and have fun.

He likes Metal and hard rock.


Lazmo

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Mar 20th, 2012 05:19 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I assume you don't have cymbals?... yes?

If so, then I would look for a secondhand name brand kit that comes with the best cymbals... because good heads and accurate tuning can sort out most drums, but cymbals is cymbals... you get what you got.

So on the drums look for Ludwig/Slingerland/Tama/Pearl/Sonor/etc and consider vintage too. Be prepared to put good heads on them.

But more importantly look for a kit that comes with real cymbals like Zildjian A, K, New Beats or Sabian AA, HH, HHX or Paiste 2002, Dimensions, Innovations, etc.







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Mar 20th, 2012 07:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A couple of other things to look for on a used kit:

· Roundness of drum shells — Usually not a problem with most manufacturers, but *really* cheap drums constructed of poor-quality ply can easily warp. For that reason, it’s advisable to take Lazmo’s advice and go with a recognized brand name.

· Bearing edges — This is the point where the tightened head(s) first contact the shell. Chips or dings in a bearing edge can prevent a head from seating properly.

· Hardware — Check for missing springs, felts, screws and tensioning rods. A well-maintained kit won’t be missing critical parts. An abused kit may barely function, which will necessitate additional $ to replace hardware.

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Mar 20th, 2012 09:33 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If you're buying used I would encourage you to pull the heads and inspect the inside of the shells. This will also allow for a more thorough bearing inspection as garp already mentioned. Also take note of the hardware such as tension rods etc. Look for rust and/or corrosion on the threads. Check out the pedals and make sure they function properly and that the bass drum pedal's action can be easily adjusted. I also second what Lazmo said about getting good name brand cymbals. I prefer A. Zildjans myself. Good cymbals and good heads make a world of difference. Good luck! Let us know what you wind up with.

De ville
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Mar 20th, 2012 09:40 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks for the advice. The sets we looked at so far both have either Zildjian or Sabian full sets, and are used.

They are both 5 piece sets, and the Tama set has the star-cast mounting system, and is in decent looking condition in the photos (craig's) 500.00

The other is a Pearl set with about the same configuration minus the Star-cast mounting system. It's also 500.00.

We haven't looked at them in person yet.

Lazmo

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Mar 21st, 2012 06:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The sets we looked at so far both have either Zildjian or Sabian full sets"

--- find out what type of Zildjians or Sabians?

Zildjian and Sabian both sell starter packs that are average at best, so if one of the sets has professional level cymbals, that would be a big plus.


De ville
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Mar 21st, 2012 09:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

We picked up a used set last night. Tama RockStar, from approximately 2000 were told.

The set was said to be barely used, and it looks like it. It's a beautiful dark blue. Not sure what the official color name is.

Not a scratch any were. Just a very slight bit of frosty corrosion on the inside of one tomb on the vertical inner bolts. They're more like screws with allen heads IIRC.

It came with mostly Sabians and one little special Zildjian. I'm not sure what it's called.

I'll get photos up soon. My friend paid 500.00. It ended up being a full set with 4 stands and symbols, throne, symbol pouch, sticks, and it was all very clean and unused looking.

The nice young college guy that sold them to my friend said it wasn't the cheaper line of Rockstar, but that the drums alone were 800.00 new, not like the 330.00 starter sets.

GTG.



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Mar 22nd, 2012 09:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd say you did very well, sounds like a nice set. Congrats!

I just bought a used Tama Imperial Star set a few weeks ago and it is that same color (I dunno what the offical name of that color is, but I like it)! Looks great under the lights.

Tell your friend we said welcome to the world of drumming! I know he will have fun.

garp
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Mar 22nd, 2012 09:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The color is likely Midnight Blue.

Tama makes great stuff. I’ve still got my Swingstar kit, purchased new in ‘83.

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Mar 22nd, 2012 01:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Little cymbal?? Could be a splash or Zil bell..

Like Lazmo pointed out if you know what you're doing a cheap set of drums with some good heads and proper tuning can be made to sound pretty good. Cheap cymbals will always sound cheap.. ;~)

Lazmo

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Mar 22nd, 2012 05:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Tama RockStars are excellent drums... good score.



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