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reverend mikey
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Mar 15th, 2012 10:00 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've been wanting to try an SG ever since my son got one around 5 years ago...just didn't ever think I could justify it because I wasn't sure I'd be brave enough to play it for worship (hey, I'm 54, and our contemporary worship isn't too edgy; we DO do some songs by Lincoln Brewster, Newsboys, Robin Mark and Jeremy Camp...). Now I don't really care whether it gets used in that venue - I've got a couple other projects I can use it for.

Anyway, ordered it today - could be here any time in the next 30-60 days. I'll be selling something to help pay for it - watch the For Sale section here.

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Mar 16th, 2012 04:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

An SG is not just for edgy rock. With the all-mahogany body/neck, you can get great mellow jazzy tones too. Use the volume controls on the guitar, and roll the tone back a bit too.

An SG is like a Telecaster--it's a musical chameleon and can handle any kind of electric guitar task in a band situation.

And the SG's upper-fret access is pretty amazing too.

reverend mikey
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Mar 16th, 2012 04:58 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yes, plenty of different players have used SG's; it will be fun to get to know it's different personalities...

...speaking of which: I was thinking I'd want to immediately switch out the pickups for '57 Classics, but I see that the stock neck pickup has an Alnico II magnet in it...kinda surprised me. So there will be a test period where nothing changes.

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Mar 17th, 2012 01:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Some of the stock humbuckers Gibson uses are fantastic. Don't discount 'em until you've had a chance to wring 'em out first; you may be impressed with the factory units. Even their ceramics can be really nice sounding.

Remember to fiddle with the pickup heights too. That has quite an impact on a pickup's responsiveness and tone.

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Mar 17th, 2012 09:28 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

First Sister Rosetta Tharp, now Reverend Mikey!

I take it you're getting the humbucker model and not the one with the P-90s. Cherry or Black?

It'll be interesting to learn how different it sounds from your Larrivee Bakersfield.

Yes, a lefty SG is on my GAS list, along with a Bakersfield.

reverend mikey
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It's an SG Standard in Heritage Cherry - THE CLASSIC MODEL!

I tried a lefty '60's Tribute with the P-90's and wasn't too impressed...it wasn't set up well at all (typical of lefty guitars in the store, but Gibson should have done a better job before letting it out of the factory), and the P-90's were just nowhere near as nice as the ones in my Larrivee RS-2.

It seems like most of the SG Standards I've seen lately have been very high quality in materials and set-up.

My Larrivee RS-2 with P-90's

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"Yes, a lefty SG is on my GAS list, along with a Bakersfield."

My Bakersfield is amazing! Incredible quality, feel and tone.

Close up of Bakersfield body wood grain

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Mar 27th, 2012 10:23 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Still waiting on the SG ... wish it were here; I think I'm going to be using it a lot. I threw my back out yesterday after about 3 weeks of minor back pain whenever I would bend over or lift something (I'm 54, btw; usually in pretty good health - lost 45 pounds a couple years ago).

I was out working in the yard; cleaning up sticks from winter, moving some landscape stones and spreading some mulch. Went to the chiropractor yesterday afternoon; I'm still hobbling around like an old man this morning...at least I can hobble; couldn't even to that last night!

I may not want to strap on anything too heavy for a while...

reverend mikey
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... still waiting ... surely it will be here soon!

I'm out of town for a week of vacation, so I figure if Murphy has anything to do with it, it will show up this week while I'm hundreds of miles away!

... how long can it take? Does this mean I'm going to get a "fresh one" off the assembly line?

Sometimes it's tough to be a lefty!

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Apr 20th, 2012 10:35 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just in case anyone missed it, there is a new SG Standard with P90's (not the 60's tribute model)out and it is available as a lefty. I just ordered one and it should be here next week. Only $999.

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Link?

reverend mikey
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Okay, I found it here ... read the small print under the two color options, and it says "Also available left-handed"...

...I may be ordering one of these on Monday when I get home from vacation! These kinds of lefties aren't around for long ... and since I already have the SG Standard on order at the same shop, I should be able to get a very sweet deal by also ordering this one.

I'll keep you posted, meanwhile

Link at Gibson's website

LeftRightOut

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Apr 21st, 2012 04:55 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

So the SG standard comes with a baked maple fretboard and alinco 5 p90's



and the 60's tribut sg comes with rosewood board and std p90's

you've got me gassin for one



Straightface

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Apr 21st, 2012 07:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Sorry about the link but here's one at MF. It's ebony but they should be getting cherry at some point. Sweetwater and Music Zoo had some. Some guys on Leftyfrets ordered from both places. Maybe try calling them because they only have ebony ones on the site. I ordered mine from Dave's Guitar Shop but it looks like they only had one because its gone from their site now, hopefully on its way to me.

sg standard p90

reverend mikey
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UPDATE:

Well, there's bad news and good news...

The bad news is the store checked with Gibson and they said my lefty SG as an ETA of 45-60 days ... what's up with that?

The really really good news: someone at their Lincoln store is trading in a lefty SG in near mint condition (has one small dent or chip on the upper horn), so I may actually have one in the next few days, and for a lot less than new. The owner put in EMG pickups, but the store owner told me he has a set of 490/498 Gibsons we can put in there ... but I told him I might just go ahead and go with a set of '57's ... I think those would be more to my liking.

Didn't talk price yet...the chip should take a few bucks ($50 or so?) off, depending on how noticeable. But then there's replacing the pickups, which I could do, but I will probably have the store do it.

Hopefully I'll know something soon! But this may turn out well - save me a few $100!

reverend mikey
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Apr 26th, 2012 05:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Another thing ... the store manager (he's also one of the owners) told me that in his conversation with Gibson, they had told him a couple J-45's they'd ordered were backordered for 45-60 days, and they showed up in 4 days!

The guy from Gibson said, "Stores that are paid up with us are gonna get pushed to the front of the line ... you didn't hear that from me, but hey, that's what happens."

So he said the same thing COULD happen with my lefty SG standard order, but I'm gonna go with the used one unless there's some reason I'm not happy with it.

reverend mikey
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Okay - update. The used SG was delivered today, and I got a phone call...

The over the phone description was that it was in excellent condition, with just one small indent on the top of the guitar - the rest pretty much mint.

And this was true ... until we discovered what they had done to it when they put the EMG pickups into it (they were installed by someone at Guitar Center - only someone there would do something like this to an American made guitar - a$$h@le$!!!)

I had asked if they had routed a battery compartment in the body when I got the phone description. Nope, no extra routes. When I took the guitar out of the case, I immediately noticed that one volume and one tone control were sitting flush down on the body...and...when I tried to turn them - nope, they won't budge!

Idiot at GC removed one volume pot and tone pot to fit the EMG battery and chip/board into the small SG control cavity, AND GLUED THE EXTRA VOLUME AND TONE KNOB TO THE TOP OF THE GUITAR WITH EPOXY!

I'd like to get my hands on this moron! What's worse is that no one at the Dietze store in Lincoln caught it when it was traded in!

But ... this worked out in my favor, as I was able to get a killer deal...they shot me a price of $600 and I said I was still concerned that if I tried to resell it, I won't even get that for it (by now we had popped off the knobs - see pics below - it DID remove some of the finish right down to the bare wood...pics in profile. Most of this will be covered up by the knobs, but it's still there, and really lowers the value of the guitar.)

So they went down to $550, and I said "okay". I'm going to pull the EMG's as soon as possible and will probably order a set of Larrivee humbuckers for it; I love the way they sound in my RS-4 - very vintage output with lots of clarity and character.

So, that left a BUNCH of cash in my pocket - around $700 that I had available - so I ordered a Dr. Z MAZ18NR (no reverb) head! I've got some time to pull the rest of that cash together - probably around 60 days/end of June.

Anyway, here are some pics of the SG in its current condition. I DO like it; and I'm very happy with the very straight grain. It really needs a set-up, but it looks like it was never played, there is literally no wear on the frets.

The small indent on the front doesn't go through the finish and isn't noticeable at most angles. And being that it's an '09, it has a normal, non-laminated rosewood fingerboard (pre-government raid on Gibson).

Front

reverend mikey
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May 1st, 2012 05:43 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

With knobs popped off...

...it becomes a "value-leader" SG!

LeftRightOut

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May 1st, 2012 05:57 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

sounds like a good score mikey, bit of work and she'll be as good as new

i reckon you could use a tinted bit of varnish to stain the wood and drop fill the chip with super glue and being under the knobs it wont stand out

but, i'm sure there's one or two guys in the guitar mods section could give you an better run down on fixing the finish


again great score



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May 1st, 2012 08:30 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Criminal what happened to that thing but what a deal! I'm certain that with the Larivee pups it will be a fine addition to your already outstanding collection.

The Gibson "truck" at the Dallas guitar show actually had two lefties on it...a 335 and the more expensive vintage style SG with the somewhat thinner neck. It was light as a feather and seemed to play nicely. I really need to go to work on my playing ability but I know there's an SG in my future.

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