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papersoul

United States

Feb 5th, 2012 05:48 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Love the modern C shape!
The Diamondback must ne Brady low output to match a single neck pickup!
When I get one I might with the Duncan EVH bridge and Duncan hot stack in the neck.

Alderandash
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QLD Australia

Feb 6th, 2012 01:48 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"The Diamondback must ne Brady low output to match a single neck pickup!
When I get one I might with the Duncan EVH bridge and Duncan hot stack in the neck."

Modal Magic describes the Diamondback HB pretty well.
I've owned one of the AM HSS strats in the last 6 months or so.
Don't forget the singles on this model are the American Custom Staggered Tex Mex which are a nice, strong single coil not to be confused with the ordinary Tex Mex on Mexican models.
I am not a HB player and felt the HB compromised the Bridge/ Middle position which I play strats for.
The Diamond Back is more powerful than the singles, even so I didn't spend a lot of time trying to balance them.
Changed the guard out for a new one with CS Texas Specials and that is how it will stay.

Edit to say that if the guitar had come with a SSS set of the Custom Staggered singles I think I would have kept them.

(This message was last edited by Alderandash at 01:54 AM, Feb 6th, 2012)

Modal Magic
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MBJ, Highway Hound.

You Can't Bend It Aussie!
Feb 6th, 2012 02:24 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"...that if the guitar had come with a SSS set of the Custom Staggered singles I think I would have kept them."

Perhaps the Custom Staggered Tex Mex neck and middle with a bridge TS may be a good combo....just sayin'.

Alderandash
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Feb 6th, 2012 02:45 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Perhaps the Custom Staggered Tex Mex neck and middle with a bridge TS may be a good combo....just sayin'."

My thoughts exactly. Just that once you take the HB out ya got a big hole.
I figured better to sell the whole guard intact and get a new one with TS's.




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Feb 6th, 2012 11:54 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

No one has mentioned this yet, partly because they are brand new and not many folks have had a chance to try them, but the H-S-S Strat from the new Fender Select line is phenomenal. I would NOT replace that humbucker that comes with it until you hear it. It's really sweet. Not like any other Fender bucker. And the compound radius neck is so amazingly comfortable and fast to play. Strong recommendation to seek one out and try it!

papersoul

United States

Feb 6th, 2012 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Fender Select? I will look for one.

If a change of the pickup out to a Duncan or something will not make a difference, I might skip it.

The bridge pickup needs to be able to handle some of the 90s rock we play from bands like Tool, Rage, Incubus, NIN, Smashing Pumpkins, STP, Alice in Chains and so on.

I have friends who have sold their strats because they all complain of them being too thin and bright even with a humbucker.

So are all new American Standards routed for a humbucker bridge pickup?
My band plays a lot of hard rock and I like how a bridge HB fits me better and the band. I also thought just getting the SSS configuration and installing Duncan hot stacks.

I like the feel and underlying tone, acoustic properties of the 2008 and newer strats, I am just not a single coil guy. For clean tones I am fine just using a neck single coil....or a mix of coils.

You guys really don't notice a big drop in volume going from the Diamondback to the neck single?

I was looking at some PRS guitars today and thought about it but can't justify it. I will be dine with my LP, SG, old PRS CE, and a fat strat.

hmmmm Fender Select.......Not sure I would like a maple top on a strat and to me a strat should have a maple fretboard. I see a lot of these on ebay.

like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Fender-American-Deluxe-Select-HSS-Fat-Stratocaster-Mahogany-Strat-Cherry-/250987149137?pt=Guitar&hash=item3a6ffff751

(This message was last edited by papersoul at 05:13 PM, Feb 7th, 2012)

Modal Magic
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MBJ, Highway Hound.

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Feb 7th, 2012 12:14 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"You guys really don't notice a big dell in volume going from the Diamondback to the neck single?"

Well...I have not adjusted the heights on my HSS Strat since I purchased it in '05. They sound great as they are and the Diamondback balances well with the output of the single coils. I've never had any desire to stuff with it because it works so well.

As far as the required style of music for your guitar, I personally don't lock myself in to any particular guitar or pup for any particular style. For example, it brings me great sonic pleasure in using your average vintage style single coil (with or without tone control wired up) for heavy, distorted, defined rhythm and soaring sustained leads. In fact the bridge pups are now my go to for that style. It used to be all neck and I couldn't stand bridge single coils, but overtime I've changed my outlook. To me It's all about using the amp/pedals/fingers to advantage.

I totally don't agree that Strats are to thin and bright for the uses you suggest.

All in my opinion. And what sounds great to me may sound crap to others. My sounds constantly shift and evolve though.


papersoul

United States

Feb 7th, 2012 05:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys! I am on the fence about getting a standard American strat or a fat strat! I could just go the stacked or rail bucker if I desire but I really like the Duncan EVH and would love to have a guitar with one in it!!! :)

I have nerve issues in my left arm and pain so I can have trouble at times playing so I tend to favor amps, and pickups that are more forgiving like my LP into my Bogner Shiva. So you can see why I might shy away from single coils. :(

papersoul

United States

Feb 8th, 2012 05:43 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Is it a bad idea to buy used on ebay for used 2008 plus strats? They seem consitent.

(This message was last edited by papersoul at 12:13 PM, Feb 8th, 2012)

papersoul

United States

Feb 8th, 2012 05:26 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

WOW, a friend of mine bought a 2008 American St Strat over the internet in 2009 and he is letting me borrow it. This thing is amazing! So resonant and full! Vibrates in my hands, love it! I am getting one. Are they all this consistent?

Modal Magic
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You Can't Bend It Aussie!
Feb 9th, 2012 12:02 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

"Are they all this consistent?"

Don't recall reading any complaints on the FDP.

I have a 2008 AmStd and it's a great guitar in every respect. No complaints from me.

Still...it's advisable to try before buy because I'm sure some duds would exist.

papersoul

United States

Feb 9th, 2012 05:18 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I hear ya on the duds but I was hoping to buy used but to be honest these days I like to play first so I will hit up all my local shops. What is the best price I can expect to get on a new USA American St strat? $899?

On a side note a friend of mine said he felt the early 80s squire SQ series are some of the beat strats ever made. Anyone try these? He prefers these and has 4 of them.

Since I prefer the look of SSS, but prefer humbuckers, I might check out the Billy Corgan model.

The final thought is on the neck. I was looking at the Fender Select series and they have an asymetrical neck. You guys prefer that?

papersoul

United States

Feb 12th, 2012 08:13 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I think what I am going to do is this summer I am going to play as many new American Standards as possible till one speaks to me. I like the modern C neck carve although I have not tried the V or assymetrical.

Since I need a heavier tone and similar volume to my humbuckers I am going to use a Duncan Hot stack plus, Vintage stack and Custom stack plus.

Peegoo
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Feb 12th, 2012 11:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

That is the correct approach. One guitar out of many will "speak" to you (neck carve, feel, playability, tone)...

All these combine to produce that indeterminate mojo that sets one guitar apart from others.

The hunt is a lot of fun.

papersoul

United States

Mar 3rd, 2012 07:47 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I guess in the end I am just a Gibson guy, and PRS guy. I have had my friend's 2008 strat here for a while now and the honeymoon is over. Great guitar but I always end up back on my PRS and Gibsons. For me, I just prefer the feel and tone of Gibson and PRS over everything.

Nothing at all against Fenders, we are all different, I just have to stop trying to force one on myself.

ampman91510

USA

Mar 4th, 2012 02:12 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

What is a "custom staggered Tex Mex neck"?

I'm trying to get info on this, and can't find any!

(I found plenty on Tex-Mex pickups, but nothing on necks).

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks! :)

papersoul

United States

Mar 4th, 2012 02:34 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Still feel like I need a fender in my collection and I will seriously consider the SQ strats from the early 80s.

papersoul

United States

Mar 5th, 2012 02:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Guys, is it really worth it to get a new one when I have found some killer 80s and 90s American strats used and beat up for under $500? I found one from a local guy for $350. It is a 1983 American Strat where the burst very worn and faded, lots of dings, but the neck is straight and fast and sounds great. I would probably just replace the trem bridge and block it and be done. The only think I really liked about the new strats anyway was the new bridge. Didn't notice a difference elsewhere.

VGP

used relics

Why not make 10 louder? - These go to 11
Mar 19th, 2012 05:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'd go with the used one.

You can take the money you save and do the bridge mod and some pickup experimentation too!

papersoul

United States

Mar 19th, 2012 06:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks! I have a PRS CE-22 that I really like and was thinking of getting another so I have to decide if I prefer the PRS ro a Fender. Strats have always had a thinner and brighter tone that has never been my thing but I want to give it a shot.

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