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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / Can we chat about a Champ II?
(This message was last edited by GK at 12:59 AM, Jan 28th, 2012)
FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / Can we chat about a Champ II?
pokeraz
Phoenix, AZDec 9th, 2011 01:20 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I' struggling to find out much information on this amp. It appears to have the original blue label speaker, all tube and point to pint wiring. 18 watts.
It is a terrific sounding amp. Matches well with my 57 RI strat and my american std Tele.
I probably paid too much because I really liked it. $400. Even if that is too much, I don't really care.
Just looking for information on what I have. Serial number starts F202XXX.
Any ideas?
RivEraEra
usa/east bay sf
Ain't no time to hateDec 9th, 2011 01:51 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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It's basically a non-reverb version of the Super Champ, made ca. '82-83, price is in the ballpark considering Super Champs are going for 600 to 900.
Mudbelly
Texas
Start Wearing PurpleDec 10th, 2011 05:31 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I bought one of these used mid 80s for $80. Still have it and recently had a friend retube it with vintage tubes scavenged from 50s military radio gear.
I been using it a lot lately with my reso fitted with a lace sensor pick up for a local open mike coffee house as a solo performer and backing up blues singers.
blues74
EU
"...gonna be a magic boy..."Dec 10th, 2011 01:10 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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What does that switchable 10M on the treble pot do? I haven't seen that before.
champster
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Oceanside, CADec 10th, 2011 02:26 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Great small amps. I had one for many years and sold it a couple years ago. These amps really come alive with decent tubes and definitely a speaker change. I used a Reverend 1030 but the Eminence Legend 1058 sounds great too.
"What does that switchable 10M on the treble pot do? I haven't seen that before."
It's a mid boost.
pokeraz
Phoenix, AZDec 11th, 2011 07:53 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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What do you guys recommend for tubes and a speaker upgrade?
Stratopastor
Stockton-on-Tees
Jivin' with cosmik debris since 1955!Dec 11th, 2011 10:46 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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if you let me know the serial numbers, I'll date them for you... email via my website
Vibroluxer
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To quench a thirst
use wind dried organic waterDec 11th, 2011 11:26 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Hi Straopator,
I was looking at your site, very nice to read. On your PRII page aboue the reverb dropping, it happens on ALL of the II amps. I have owed at least one of the PR, DR, and Concerts. You are right, when the 2nd stage of the tube is utilized for the lead effect, the tube sucks everything from the reverb.
THanks again!
Stratopastor
Stockton-on-Tees
Jivin' with cosmik debris since 1955!Dec 13th, 2011 04:32 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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Hey Vibroluxer
thanks, I didn't know that about the Concert....
55Tremolux
AustraliaJan 17th, 2012 12:11 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I picked one up recently to go with my Super Champ and it has become my go to amp recently. Simple, tuneful and powerful enough for most situations.
I'll get the trannie details to you shortly Stratopastor but in the interim the serial number is F205481
Stratopastor
Stockton-on-Tees
Jivin' with cosmik debris since 1955!Jan 17th, 2012 11:21 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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hey 55, that's from the 4th production run of Champ II / Bassman 20s, early in 1983.
The Champ II and Bassman 20 shared the same metal chassis design and so appear to be lumped together when serial number is the only info.
Enjoy! I'd love a Champ II.
BBQ Gord
CANADA
Didn't chew kill my bruvah?Jan 17th, 2012 01:56 PM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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The circuit on these Rivera Cnamps is similar to that of the Princeton Reverb. I wonder how come the Princeton is sort of "lackluster" in comparison. Same type of phase inverter etc. Anybody have any idea?
GK
USAJan 28th, 2012 12:57 AM Edit Profile Print Topic Search
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I love mine. However I wanted more meat and power so I swapped the OT for an Allen TO20, the speaker for a Ragin Cajun, added a bias trimmer, and swapped the signal caps for the Blue Sozos. I also made a small DC supply off the filaments to run a small cooling fan. Now it puts out a tad more measured wattage than my '64 non-reverb deluxe and sounds amazingly big in the front of house when miced up. As a bonus it will fit in an overhead as carry on luggage, so it's a great amp for fly dates!
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