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archiestone
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Oct 4th, 2011 01:49 PM   Edit   Profile  

Drove by a garage sale this weekend & hit the brakes when I saw this: Music Man 115RH cabinet in great shape. According to seller, it was in a high school band room they were clearing out & almost got tossed.
I made an offer & took it home to find it loaded with an Electro Voice EVM 15B (15" woofer rated at 400 watts) -- also in ridiculous condition.
It's huge, heavy & takes up too much space so I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it, but it sure is fun to play through. Guitar sounds very good through it despite it being a woofer. I imagine some bassist might cream to own it.

MM 115RH cab

LHW

Southwest Ohio

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Oct 4th, 2011 02:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

You're right about it being huge! Good lord, how much does it weigh?
Nice score though!

(This message was last edited by LHW at 02:19 PM, Oct 4th, 2011)

archiestone
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El Californio

Oct 4th, 2011 03:38 PM   Edit   Profile  

Gotta be 80 lbs. The speaker alone weighs about 30!

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That chicken

is WRONG, baby.
Oct 4th, 2011 06:29 PM   Edit   Profile  

Great score! Clean the dust off of it (e.g., play it LOUD for a week or three), and then CL it. You'll make all your money back and then some.

Mike DeTorrice

USA

Oct 4th, 2011 06:31 PM   Edit   Profile  

Wow, what a wonderful find ! It's clearly in great shape and that mighty EVM 15B alone is worth your investment. Beyond it's bass guitar use, I can imagine some terrific guitar set-ups using this as a part of it.

Mike

silverface68

usa/ Northwest IN

You say you`re leavin,I`ll help you pack
Oct 4th, 2011 11:13 PM   Edit   Profile  

I passed a unclaimed property sale at a storage facility today and saw what looked like a pair of old Peavey PA cabs loaded with 2-12" speakers. I withstood the urge to ask the price though, maybe I shouldn`t have!!! Archiestone, where did the family of 8 people move into after you forced them out of that 4-story high rise of a 1-15" cab??? LOL

strayedstrater
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Oct 4th, 2011 11:26 PM   Edit   Profile  

I've got its brother -- a 212RH. AFAIK the 210, 212, and 115 were all the same dimensions except for the hole(s) cut in the baffle. (The 210 and 212 have a front to back 2"x2" post between the speakers -- I guess the 115 doesn't have that?)

They're big, but they sound even bigger. Have you ever heard a combo with a Sound Enhancer (see link)? The "Rear loaded Horn" does something like that -- it's more than just a low frequency port, it bounces a lot of treble and mid too. It's a cliche to compare ported cabs to 4x12's, but sometimes it really does sound like more than 2 speakers. I'd imagine the 115 sounds huge.

Sound Enhancer

archiestone
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El Californio

Oct 5th, 2011 12:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

strayedstrater - Interesting, thanks for the info. Never heard a Sound Enhancer and yes, this cab sounds huge. I add a pic of the cab on it's side and uncovered to show baffle/spkr front. Thank God for casters!

Uncovered

ejm

usa

Oct 7th, 2011 07:43 PM   Edit   Profile  

How do we know if it's a "score" or not? Unless I missed it, there was no price mentioned.


BbendFender
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Oct 7th, 2011 08:10 PM   Edit   Profile  

Sound Enhancer - Strayedstrater, I had never heard of these until a friend sent me a page from some guitar magazine. He asked me if I thought I could build one. Well, I did and it works great. I play Fender combo amps and it makes my Deluxe Reverb sound huge. I like it but I've never used it at a gig.

Musicman - I have had several Musicman amps and I liked them all. I think you hit a good one on your garage sale find.

archiestone
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El Californio

Oct 7th, 2011 08:57 PM   Edit   Profile  

ejm - Let's just say I got it for about the ebay price of the Music Man logo badge.

RussB
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a little out of tune
Oct 8th, 2011 12:18 PM   Edit   Profile  

Nice!

strayedstrater
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Garland, TX

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Oct 20th, 2011 10:29 AM   Edit   Profile  

"AFAIK the 210, 212, and 115 were all the same dimensions except for the hole(s) cut in the baffle."

Sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but I was wrong about them all being the same size. There's an eBay auction for a 210 and the outer dimensions are listed as approx 27x23x14. The 212 is square -- approx 27x27x14. The port proportions look a little different in the auction pics too, but that could just be camera angles.

Archiestone, if you see this could you please measure your 115?

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I've A/B'd my 212 against a pair of EVM TL806 (Thiele) cabs. The 212RH has a looser bottom end -- not bloated or flabby, but the attack and release are a bit softer and some frequencies are exaggerated. It sounds more traditionally guitar-voiced, less hi-fi than the TL806's (not "better" per se -- different but they both sound great to me). For bass I much prefer the TL806's.

I've also compared it to my Genz-Benz G-Flex but I haven't had the same speakers in both (yet) so it's not a direct A/B test. The G-Flex seems to have a much fatter and looser low end, almost boomy. There doesn't seem to be as much of the mids and highs coming from the ports.

You have to be up close right in front of the TL806's to hear the ports as separate sound sources, but within 20' or so of the 212RH you can hear the port as a full-range separate source. The G-Flex ports almost sound like a bi-amped sub.

The 212RH and the TL806's sound different on their sides (with the ports vertical) than standing up (with the ports horizontal coupling to the floor). The bass is less emphasized, looser, and more "open-back" sounding on their sides (or raised up off the floor).

So far, every set of speakers I've tried in the 212RH has sounded great. British voiced, American voiced, hi-fi voiced.

EC used MusicMan amps and cabs for most of the '70s and early '80s. He recently auctioned them off and as you can see in the pic he favored JBL's in them.

Eric and some of his old friends

archiestone
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El Californio

Oct 20th, 2011 02:28 PM   Edit   Profile  

Ask and ye shall receive:
The measurements for the Music Man 115RH are as follows:
L: 27 1/2"
W: 27 1/2" (30" with castors. Cabinet has castors placed to roll on it's side.)
Depth: 13 1/2"

Steve Dallman
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Oct 20th, 2011 03:42 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks for that. I have a Music Man 130HD head and I'm thinking of building a cabinet or two for it.

I've used it with an old, old Peavey 2X15 that looks a bit like two of these stacked with the ports in the middle.

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Oct 20th, 2011 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks Archie. Those are the actual dimensions of the 212 too -- I was too lazy to type the fractions.

Steve, I started sketching out a blueprint of my 212RH. I got frustrated and gave up before getting measurements -- between the Tolex and the glued-in back panel I'm not entirely sure where one panel ends and another starts. The baffle is 26" x 16 5/8" x 9/16" and the other panels are 3/4" thick (except the back panel -- it's thinner but I haven't pulled the old-style Fender jack cup to measure it). The inner wall of the horn (the red panel in the pic) is 10" tall, 3" from the back, 3.5" from the bottom.

I think you can reconstruct it pretty closely from there, but if you need other dimensions let me know.

Edited to add an apology for the somewhat hard to see color scheme of the sketch. I probably should have done a white background instead of going for the blueprint look.

212RH blueprint

(This message was last edited by strayedstrater at 05:57 PM, Oct 20th, 2011)

Steve Dallman
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Merrill, Wisconsin

Dangit! Hot weather.
Oct 20th, 2011 05:54 PM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks, I got it all.

anuthabubba
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can see through your eyes.
Oct 21st, 2011 08:15 AM   Edit   Profile  

I have a couple of old Peavey 1x15 cabs that are very similar. One has a white frame Weber California and the other has a Black Widow. HEAVY!

trees

United States

Shawn Chevalier
Jun 10th, 2019 12:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

The 118-RH external dimensions are as follows: 17D x 32Hx 27.5W

archiestone
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Jun 11th, 2019 12:24 AM   Edit   Profile  

Wow. After an 8 year hiatus, this thread I started reappears. That cab is -LONG- gone.

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