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madvek

Boston

Apr 16th, 2011 07:13 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I'm about to buy a '78 SFDR, all original except for tubes, speaker and grill cloth.

Any guidance to what the appropriate replacement grill cloth would be for a '78 SFDR? Thanks for any tips!

BbendFender
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Texas

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Apr 16th, 2011 07:51 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a '79 SFDR and mine has a very small orange thread that runs vertically in the silver cloth. My Fender Amp Book also says the above.

madvek

Boston

Apr 16th, 2011 08:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Bbend... Does it look like this?
http://www.mojotone.com/amp-parts/Grillcloth/Fender-Style-Aged-Blue-White-Silver-Grill-Cloth-36-W

(This message was last edited by madvek at 08:06 PM, Apr 16th, 2011)

KnowledgeSeeker

USA

Apr 17th, 2011 06:28 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a 74 with that orgage sparkle grill cloth. Cant find that stuff. Or I haven't been able to find it. They have the blue and tourquise sparkle available which is period correct as well.But FWIW I think the both of those have bigger colored threads than than the orig stuff. I have the tourquois sparkle which I aged and added the aluminum trim to give my amp the late "68" look. It came out nice. The aging tames the bright torquois

SoK66
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Apr 17th, 2011 07:22 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have also not been able to find the orange thread repro cloth for 70s SF amps. The stuff being sold by AES, Mojo, etc. seems to be the turquoise striped stuff. You might check with Larry Rodgers of Rodgers amps. I've gotten some BF baffles and SF grille frames from him that were very well done.

KnowledgeSeeker

USA

Apr 17th, 2011 07:58 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

check out the link below for grill cloth pics

http://www.shutterfly.com/lightbox/view.sfly?fid=b6841492788dcc4926cd1d30d33b21f1//

(This message was last edited by KnowledgeSeeker at 08:11 AM, Apr 17th, 2011)

anteriorl5

USA

Apr 17th, 2011 08:36 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I would wait for some original cloth to come up on Ebay. Used baffles from the period come up fairly often and can be had on the cheap. But that's just me (grill cloth fetish - take what I say with a large grain of salt).

madvek

Boston

Apr 17th, 2011 03:56 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks guys.. knowledgeseeker: That link's not working for me.

Follow up. I had a good look at the SFDR today. It has the aftermarket silver/turquoise grille cloth, and boy is it UGLY!! The turquoise strip is way too thick, and just not right. I know the actual appropriate cloth should have the orange strip, and I don't see that available anywhere.

Has some other, more important issues too. Nowhere near the volume it should have, a little "bright". I'm checking with a tech to see what it might take to get it in shape. Since it's not all original anyway, it might be easier to do BF cosmetics if I take it.

(This message was last edited by madvek at 04:28 PM, Apr 17th, 2011)

KnowledgeSeeker

USA

Apr 19th, 2011 06:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic


check this out. Hopefully it works. I am a dope when it comes to posting pics via third party!!

http://gitarmoto.shutterfly.com/235

(This message was last edited by KnowledgeSeeker at 06:51 AM, Apr 19th, 2011)

madvek

Boston

Apr 19th, 2011 08:50 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Thanks Knowledgeseeker! Yeah, that aging does tone it down, it looks good.

KnowledgeSeeker

USA

Apr 19th, 2011 08:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

if you are interested let me know. I have the cloth and can "age it".

nuke

USA

Apr 19th, 2011 01:54 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have an original 78 SFDR and the blue-white-silver cloth at Mojotone is the closest thing. No orange threads in mine at all.



BbendFender
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Texas

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Apr 19th, 2011 07:25 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

If the grill cloth is in good shape, I'd just play the thing and not worry about it.

madvek

Boston

Apr 20th, 2011 06:29 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I was using the Ampwares Fender amp field guide as a reference, I assumed it was accurate:

Grill Cloth: (68-69) Blue sparkle grille cloth w/ aluminum frame ; (70-75) Blue sparkle grille cloth ; (76-80) Orange and silver grille cloth.

As I mentioned above, there are other more important issues with the amp beyond cosmetics that I can have taken care of by a tech. Just trying to look at the whole package I'd be getting into if I pull the trigger on the deal. Thanks again for the info.



KnowledgeSeeker

USA

Apr 20th, 2011 07:38 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a 1974 DR with the orange in the grill cloth. Often the dates are subjective. But it is what it is I guess. So what else is going on with your amp?? DRs are great and like all the older Fender amps are not only easily reapired and kept up but also easy to "tweak"....

madvek

Boston

Apr 20th, 2011 08:06 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

The other issue is I'm pretty sure it either needs some new caps or maybe a new ot? Not sure what, but it needs time with a tech to sort it out. Likely standard 30 year old maintenance, but not sure how extensive. I played it side by side with a new 5e3 clone and the 22w DR could not come close to matching the output of the 12w. Also, was very "bright/thin" compared to many DR's I've played.

(This message was last edited by madvek at 08:10 PM, Apr 20th, 2011)

KnowledgeSeeker

USA

Apr 21st, 2011 06:16 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

yeah....sounds like it could use some new filter caps and other tone caps. OTs "usually" dont go bad. I had to "voice" my DR to sound beffier as well. Also if the power tubes are biased cold it will sound thin and be lacking in volume. Make sure your speaker leads have the correct polarity too. That will cut your volume and overall tone as well. Hope you have a tech you can trust. Good luck with your DR!!!

nuke

USA

Apr 21st, 2011 12:22 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Yeah, if it is thin sounding, something isn't right. DR should be a pretty decently loud amp with a nice full tone.

I know when I was gigging mine, people were always surprised it was only a 22w amp.

madvek

Boston

Apr 28th, 2011 04:40 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Update: I passed on the deal, too many issues. Thanks for the advice all!

Instead, I now own a gently used '78 SFPR in wonderful original condition. Including original speaker, tubes, OT. But loaded with an Eminence Ramrod and Allen upgrade OT that gets it up to @18W. Feels like DR territory volume wise.

(This message was last edited by madvek at 02:27 PM, May 7th, 2011)

KnowledgeSeeker

USA

Apr 29th, 2011 05:51 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Good Luck with the PR. Nice amps and very tweakable....

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