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FDP Forum / I'd Hit It! - Drums and Percussion / Cymbals mounted off the bass shell?

BlondeStrat
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Jan 26th, 2011 07:35 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Can anyone tell me if there are any *ill effects* from having a cymbal rod mounted off the bass drum.

Talking sonically ... I can almost imagine having resonant sounds from the bass when one attacks the cymbal or maybe effects to the Cymbal when attacking the bass ... Is there an issue there?

Anyone had structural stability problems with this sort of set-up?

Obviously having the ability to mount a cymbal without an additional stand would be a very handy and a space saving deal ... wanting to learn a little more before I dive in and do something I might later regret ;)

Advice appreciated.

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Jan 26th, 2011 08:04 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I’ve seen some jazz drummers do it, but I can’t remember the last time I saw a rock drummer do it.

I could envision the bass drum possibly transmitting some vibration through the rod to the cymbal, but unless you’re in a recording situation, I doubt that it would be much of an issue.

This guy did it...twice!

BlondeStrat
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Jan 26th, 2011 08:19 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Looks like (even) three times if you count the little inverted cymbal below the rim of the floor tom ;)

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Jan 26th, 2011 08:27 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Just caught that!

Lazmo

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Jan 26th, 2011 09:15 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

A kick mounted ride cymbal will “ring” with every bass drum hit, but as garp said, unless you are recording, it won’t be an issue. Session drummers probably wouldn’t do it, unless they were going for a vintage sound.

There can be issues with how good the clamp works and whether the stand slips sideways or not, particularly if it is vintage, but I’m sure a modern clamp/stand design would not suffer that.

The other thing is if the bass-drum shell is very thin… as some3 ply layups are, then you may have strength issues with the bass-drum shell flexing.

I have a bass mounted cymbal on my 2 piece bikini kit, but it uses the old tom mount. The ride does ring away, but not noticeably and it is probably a part of the total sound of the kit.


Lazmo

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Jan 26th, 2011 09:16 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

Plus, there is also the old drummer saying...

"Friends don't let friends drill holes"


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Jan 28th, 2011 01:59 AM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I've got the ride on the bass(old Rogers kit). Might give some people problems but I'm not a heavy hitter and I like a live sound so it works for me.

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Feb 3rd, 2011 03:39 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I have a 'Keith Moon' style (before he went crazy on the gear) OLLLLDDD Premier kit that mounts a small splash on the kick shell - complete with telescoping, spring-loaded 'stand'.

(This message was last edited by Dr Bass MD at 03:40 PM, Feb 3rd, 2011)

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Apr 30th, 2011 12:45 PM   Edit   Profile   Print Topic   Search Topic

I mount my ride on one, you cant hear any difference, its one less cymbal stand in the hardware bag and anytime I can make that lighter I'm happier.

Also great for small stages more room.

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