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FDP Forum / Fender Amps: Vintage (before 1985) / The Princeton Reverb II (Rivera era PRII) Conclave

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Stratopastor
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hypnotising chickens since 1955
Mar 21st, 2011 03:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

I remember looking into this some time ago (before I went instead for the foam donut) and yes, it was whichever leg-length is good for the Deluxe.

littleuch
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Mar 22nd, 2011 05:45 PM   Edit   Profile  

I went ahead and ordered a set of 14" tilt back legs from Musicians Friend. I'll report back about the install.

Stratopastor
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hypnotising chickens since 1955
Mar 23rd, 2011 04:05 PM   Edit   Profile  

Excellent, thanks in advance.

Incidentally, I've just got my Strat back from a re-fret in stainless steel, so it's playing a lot brighter. Couple that with the extra sparkle from losing the snubber caps on v1, and the clean tone's moved on to another planet of complex harmonic wonderfulness. It makes me think I'll never use a chorus pedal again (though I probably will...)

littleuch
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Mar 23rd, 2011 04:32 PM   Edit   Profile  

Interesting. I was pondering the move to SS frets on a new neck and digging through the archives on the debates whether it had an effect on tone. So it's your perception it brightened things up, huh? Probably another thread tho.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to having the tilt back option, especially for my current rehearsal space.



Stratopastor
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hypnotising chickens since 1955
Mar 23rd, 2011 04:47 PM   Edit   Profile  

Yeah, assuming you like the legs, draw us a template and I'll add it to the 'site. I do have a photo of a PRII with the legs, on the gallery page.

Main reason for stainless frets was the tech's assurance that they'll last a lot longer than the brass ones that came on the Strat (MIM). But I am loving the tone.

By the way, I've just added a link to this discussion from the website's front page. So everybody talk nice.

:-)

tilt-back PRII; scroll down two-thirds

littleuch
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Mar 26th, 2011 07:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

Well I got the legs in and installed them like a bull in a China shop. No pics yet, but it looks like the pic on your site, Andrew. Actually I found an old reference here where FDP'er jhawkr installed a set on a Deluxe and kinda followed that. 1" up from the bottom, 1.5" in from the back and lined it all up. The trickiest part is locating the stops, actually. I installed 1 in a comfortable area with the right angle/lean, then measured/installed the other side using the same kind of calculations. Crazy thing is I measured 3 or 4 times before committing with the drill. Then after installing it, I measured the distance from the bottom of the amp to the center of the fully extended legs. One side measures about 1/4" further than the other! I tried it out on carpet and then a hardwood floor and it's stable (no wobble or angle), but of course this disparity bugs me.

Anyway, I tried it out and think it'll be great. My ears are still ringing :-)

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 07:03 AM, Mar 26th, 2011)

littleuch
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Mar 27th, 2011 08:02 AM   Edit   Profile  

"Different issue - my tone controls don't seem to have as much effect as they used to. What might cause that? (or maybe my ears are on the blink...)"

SP, I have the exact opposite issue. I find my controls very hairline. The difference between, say 4 or 5 on any tone control (especially treb and mid) is dramatic and you can hear a "wah" effect playing a note and changing these settings. I don't recall it being this noticable prior to the recap.



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Apr 17th, 2011 11:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

.. so the recap made a difference to yours... hmmm, I don't know why we shoud get such different behaviour now. Maybe I should clean my pots.

Incidentally I have added a .pdf of the 1983 (Rivera-era) amp catalogue to my Rivera-era tube schematics page...

Amp catalogue (14Mb)

(This message was last edited by Stratopastor at 11:39 AM, Apr 17th, 2011)

6 Cylinder Slim

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Your Message Here
Apr 19th, 2011 05:30 AM   Edit   Profile  

The 14" legs. I use them on my PR clone 1x12 combo. That's almost excatly the size of my old PRII

Stratopastor
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boom dot bust
May 18th, 2011 03:18 AM   Edit   Profile  

thanks Slim...

so, littleuch, can we have a template or a sketch-with-dimensions to make future leg-fitters' lives easier? :-)

littleuch
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May 22nd, 2011 07:52 AM   Edit   Profile  

I'll see what I can do, SP. Probably a pic with some drop in graphics, if I can figure it out.

6 Cylinder Slim

New England

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May 23rd, 2011 05:50 AM   Edit   Profile  

One thing about the Fender legs. They weren't flat. If you held them with the insides together, there was a splay out at the top. If you install them this way, they will slip over the top of the stop button. I had to push the top of the leg in as I pushed the leg back so it would properly engage the stop button. This was a pest, so I removed them and bent the tops so there was a slight bow inward. Now, I can just pull the legs back and not think about it. They go right into place.

Stratopastor
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boom dot bust
Jul 19th, 2011 01:38 AM   Edit   Profile  

My PRII started cutting out intermittently - I tracked it down to V3, which was sensitive to how it was seated. You could see the glow come and go. Retensioned the tube socket (specifically pin 9, it looked more 'open' than the other heater pins) and all seems well now. And the tone controls now seem to have more effect... maybe V3 wasn't heating up fully even when I was getting sound out of the amp? Whatever, I'm a lot happier now.

6 Cylinder Slim

New England

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Jul 29th, 2011 05:33 AM   Edit   Profile  

I never liked those tube sockets. Very sloppy, never a tight fit. With my eyesight, it was always hard to see the keyway and the center holes were plenty large enough for the tube stem to fit in any direction. The modern ceramic sockets are much nicer. The tubes snick into place with a solid feel and the hole and keyway fit the tube stems properly.

littleuch
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Sep 2nd, 2011 05:59 AM   Edit   Profile  

I put my Celestion Blue Alnico back in. The Emi RW&B is a fine speaker for this amp but the Blue makes me feel like I got my old amp back. Stratopastor, I still have made no progress with any template for the tilt back legs. I'm horrible with such things, lol. Currently living with some filament rattle on newer JJ 6V6's. The tubes sound fine but buzz out pretty good with channel and master on 5/5. Maybe Tung Sol RI's next. It looks like KCA is currently out of stock on the Brimars I previously had.

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

Jivin' with cosmik debris since 1955!
Dec 13th, 2011 04:36 AM   Edit   Profile  

I've got someone asking me, and because I'm in 220V-land I didn't know... was the 3-prong power cord normal on 110V models?

thanks in advance...

NoSoapRadio
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Dec 13th, 2011 07:55 AM   Edit   Profile  

"was the 3-prong power cord normal on 110V models?"

It was on mine.

littleuch
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Michigan

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Dec 13th, 2011 11:09 AM   Edit   Profile  

When I acquired mine (used) it had a 3 pronged power cord with a red plug. I had it recently changed out because the insulation was ratty at the plug. But I don't know if it was original.

My basics in electronics is failing me, but would the amp even have a switchable ground if it came with a grounded plug originally?

(This message was last edited by littleuch at 11:13 AM, Dec 13th, 2011)

Vibroluxer
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Dec 13th, 2011 04:35 PM   Edit   Profile  

Those Brimars that Mike had are killer. I have 4 matched sets.

Stratopastor

Stockton-on-Tees

Jivin' with cosmik debris since 1955!
Dec 14th, 2011 09:17 AM   Edit   Profile  

Thanks littleuch and NoSoapRadio,much appreciated.

And yes Vibroluxer, I like Brimars too. More bass that other types, which you can tame with the tone control if necessary... and they give my favourite 6V6 power-stage distortion...

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